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15 years agoLevel 10It's a large demo... published by request. Near the beginning, I observed what appears to be a 'snap-to' on enemy by a player named "Punisher", whose score at this point was about 40-5, with over 50% headshots, mid-airs, etc, which is why I started demoing. It appears that as soon as he noticed me spec'ing, he turned it off. You be the judge.
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15 years ago
I am the nice one.Level 10I was the Punisher and I was spawncamping under Doom, so my defense was good, no surprise on the score. I want to see this alledged snapping. Your post didn't attach the demo, Glad. -
15 years agoLevel 10Changed the extension to .zip- Please change back to .dm_68 to view.
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15 years agoLevel 10sorry gladi8r, no aimbot here, no snaps on blue, just someone who knows how to use the sr8 with a small ammount of situational awareness.
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15 years ago
I am the nice one.Level 10My defense is simple. The zoom effect of the sr8 is lost in the demo. My button for zoom is Q. I zoom in once and wait. Once I establish a target, I zoom in quickly twice more while zeroing in. The demo doesn't show the magnifying zoom effect of the sr8. It just shows a snap zoom instead of a draw zoom.
The initial shot on Maxwell (I think) behind black tower was because I see him to the right of my scope and then he shoots at me so I zoom in and kill him.
The alledged aimbots themselves are rationally disproved this way: The snap zooms are not centered on the enemy and the aimer doesn't hold steady on a moving target. My aim sways like a normal shooter's should. It also appears to me that when a target is in full view, I hit arms, legs, helmets and kevlar. I don't default to kevlar or torso body shots like aimbots I've encountered do.
Furthermore, to my recollection, I was shooting from under Doom. I don't recall changing this strategy until after Glad accused me of hacking. I don't really see where any mid-air shots would come into question.
That all being said, if I didn't know it was me, and not having seen this kind of snap zooming before, I'd be suspicious, too. But, again, to my defense, if it was aimbot, why would I use the final two zooms when the aimbot doesn't need it? The first zoom of the sr8 would be plenty to zero in on a target.
I think that's the best I can defend this demo until I review it closely again. Okay, I just did. My aim sways. Almost every time. There's nothing nonhuman about it.
I don't like being called a cheat. I'm also particularly annoyed that when Gladiator told me to go to another server and I said "No. I ref this server." (and then I changed my name to Divine shortly after) that this was somehow relayed to others playing later that I had said something to the effect of "I'm ref and I'll cheat if I want".
I took this personally because I like Gladiator and it bugged me that a regular called me a blatant hack. So I've been asking him to post it. I've been quick zooming like this since 2000. If it's fast, it's from a lot of practice.
I've also become aware that some players have become very good at masking their wallhack and aimbot with on/off buttons ::cough:: SOLACE ::cough::, and I'm afraid for the time when the program will mimick more imperfect behavior and become extremely difficult to detect. -
15 years ago
I am the nice one.Level 10Thank you Zellis, really. -
15 years ago
I am the nice one.Level 10Wait a second. What do you mean SMALL situational awareness? -
15 years agoLevel 10lol ... 8)
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15 years agoLevel 10Well, Sheila, if you weren't hacking, my apologies. Just seemed very suspicious, and the snap-to from right of black tower to van spawn point looked instantaneous and dead accurate. Inhuman, one might say. However, I'm willing to give a fellow 'regular' the benefit of the doubt.
Now, as far as "that this was somehow relayed to others playing later that I had said something to the effect of "I'm ref and I'll cheat if I want" you'll have to look elsewhere to find the culprit there. I'll say it again- I don't care who/what/where/when- if I see something suspicious, I'll voice it. And I did. The Sup server is full of hax and cheats, name-stealers, etc, and I know everyone is as sick of it as I am.
Peace.
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15 years ago
I am the nice one.Level 10Glad,
The snap from black tower to spawn is normal, since spawn was always my focal point and I want to look back as soon as I can in case someone is gunning for me. I look back, see a guy, zoom in and shoot.
Anyway, I'm glad you posted it. I've made some ridiculous shots in my day and until I saw what you meant, I was afraid you caught something I couldn't explain like a no scope whip shot.
My craziest Superman kill was coming from black tower to garage and whipping the sr8 toward the rear of the blue brick building and killing a guy in the head before landing on the truck. There is no explanation for that except sheer dumb luck.
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