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16 years agoLevel 7Getting the servers put back over to Q3A w/PB? Since there's no sign of anti-cheat/GUID/add-your-own-custom-cvar-to-scan-for in the near future for the io version.
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16 years agoLevel 5I wish, everyday there are more and more overnight allstars....grrrrrrr!
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16 years agoLevel 10cheats are getting pretty annoying....,but I feel it would be a step back and I would vote no...just my .02cents and im not sure how everyone else would feel. you would have a tough time getting all the newbies to go back to 3.7
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16 years agoLevel 10does the Q3 ut_4 version support punkbuster? that sounds like a better choice, rather then going back to 3.7
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16 years agoMain AdminAs for the superman server i would think about trying the PB/io version again but the last time i made the change it KILLED the server. I think allot of the old school players deleted their Quake version and there is allot of new folks playing the stand alone that dont have a copy of quake. Then theres also the PB lag (thats better than the hackers)
As for the hackers on the superman server there is only about 5 guys that keep coming back ruining it for us all. I just wish the DEV team would at least get off their ass's and get the banning function working properly!!!!!!!!! Kinda makes the game pointless when you allow hackers in..
As for changing the Superman server to the PB version it is as easy as a click of a button. But it will also change the ip so that might also confuse ppl.
As for Zellis - Yes there is a io stand alone version that most servers are running that has NO anti cheat. Or there is the Quake 4.0 version that still has Punk Buster support. The down side to the Quake version is -(you need to have Quake installed) and ther is (PB lag)
Considering i have thought about shutting the Superman server down due to all the bitching about hackers that i cant deal with due to NO ANTI CHEAT! Running the PB version might be the best option even though we will lose a bunch of folks that don’t have quake. But then again i might be able to get both running and allow the public to decide
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16 years agoLevel 10dank - for a 3 solution, cant you simply ban or block the 5 guys from the server its self? I'm not talking a game related ban, but a IP ban when they try to connect to your server but get block by the firewall. I'm not sure if its possible but its an idea. Ghotz? dank? other network guys? is this a possible workaround?
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16 years agoTue Sept 04 2007, 06:33PMLevel 3Well,
The short answer is yes they can do this with a firewall; however, the determined hacker can merely spoof the mac on their nic and get a new IP. The only halfway reasonable solution is to ban the netblock the current IP is in.
The problem with that is that it becomes a job for someone, and those someone's don't want to invest the time for obvious reasons. I have some creative thoughts, but I would need to talk to other experienced coders before pitching work arounds to the admin community.
The deal is that that these "h4x0rs" are not really posing a threat to the boxes themselves so it quickly becomes low priority on most people's to do lists.
The secondary asset that an admin is trying to protect are the gamers. The only damage you can assess is the fact that gameplay is ruined for a short time, but most people deal with it. The community itself probably does not have any significant losses YET due to the lack of a PB type control.
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16 years agoLevel 2the only thing i dont like about the quake client is the framerate loss compared to the IO client, meaning i would prolly have to turn down some graphical settings
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16 years agoWed Sept 05 2007, 01:19PMLevel 7Yeah, everyone's spoiled now with this io version and it's higher FPS (since there's no system scanning). I think it might be just as difficult to get admins to run ioUrt with anti-cheat if/when that happens. Since ioUrt won't be using EvenBalance's system (which we're all new to), the chances of getting hooked up with an experienced anti-cheat crew are slim to none. There's no telling if anti-cheat for ioUrT will be better or worse for FPS. My guess is that for the atleast for the short term, after it's first implimented it will be worse.
PS. For those without Q3A, I think I've seen that it's being sold on steam now for $19.95. -
16 years agoMain Adminyoud think ther would be a way to butcher punkbuster to utilize the PB power, and banning function as a temp solution for io4.0. Those are really the only functions we need ATM.
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