Well, this was certainly one of my biggest WTF moments in the past few weeks.

I don't wanna disrespect the league of justice's final opinion by any means, but I do think that a div 1 player and long time regular like devil deserves that the particular scenes in the demo which made you come to this conclusion get posted to the public and debated by the public in order to find possible mistakes.

Just sayin, we're all humans and it's human nature to make mistakes, even in activities you do every day. But we should try to avoid them or prove that he is 100% hacking and I honestly don't see very many suspicious scenes for wallhack and none for an aimassist (which doesn't mean too much :) )

Well, this was certainly one of my biggest WTF moments in the past few weeks.

I don't wanna disrespect the league of justice's final opinion by any means, but I do think that a div 1 player and long time regular like devil deserves that the particular scenes in the demo which made you come to this conclusion get posted to the public and debated by the public in order to find possible mistakes.

Just sayin, we're all humans and it's human nature to make mistakes, even in activities you do every day. But we should try to avoid them or prove that he is 100% hacking and I honestly don't see very many suspicious scenes for wallhack and none for an aimassist (which doesn't mean too much :) )

rabbit

Nice to read that.
I already talked with Xsmoker that I'm disappointed getting banned without letting me explain my actions.
I'm an admin on that server for years and caught more than 50 cheater for fsk.. and this is the "thank you"

First...as a rule, we do not demand 100% proof that someone is cheating in order to ban. Usually, if we are 90% - 95% sure, then that's all that's required. I guess you could say "beyond a reasonable doubt". If that's good enough to send someone to jail for life (or worse), then it's good enough to ban.

I would like to add that there was not one voter who had any personal issues with Devil which may have affected their vote. A few, because of the alias that was used in the demo, did not even know that it was him.
I've stated in the past, that no one is safe from being demoed and accused by submitting such demo.
As for the League of Justice...yes there may be one or two who are "pub players only", but most have many years in the game and have played in Leagues. There are 10 members right now, and we also got the opinion of other clan members. It was unanimous amongst the members who voted.
There will be a separate thread for public discussion, and posting most points that we thought indicated a cheat.

I don't know anyone in the clan, forum or on Superman that doesn't like Devil, so if we're going to open this up into a public analysis, let's keep it focused on the demo. We all agree Devil is an experienced player, knows Superman inside and out, has done a great deal of service as an admin and has become a regular not just on the map and forum, but also on TS. None of that is relevant to the demo.

At the same time, I've said it a bunch of times, that being an admin on Superman or anywhere else is a thankless job. It sucks. If people want to be admins for the gratitude, they shouldn't be admins.

As Rabbit points out, it's fair to open this up to public discussion, so I'll create a post shortly.

I was admin to keep a good administrated server clean and the thread you've opened is "thank you" enough.
"have played in leagues" - that's the problem maybe. http://pastebin.com/q24FGXnB

Tiffany - asshat
]tiffany_ipaddress_fsk405urbanterror41superman.dm_68[/file]

Devil...what is "the problem"? And why paste that request from keeper to play for USA (again)?

Gave Tiffany 3 days TB.

to have played in a high div or nt years ago doesn't make somebody more experienced if he is a pub player now.
game changed, divs and clans are harder to beat now.
you all know keeper so i thought he is a good example to show

So, I guess what you are inferring, without actually coming out and saying it, is that kEEpEr is "over the hill" (passe, in French?). That other players have risen as he is sinking? Let's face it, the World Cup seems to be just as "cliqueie" as anywhere else. He always has just enjoyed a good game, whether in a pub, or elsewhere. He prefers sometimes to get together with other "over the hill" players and have some really keen competition. His PC is not the best, but that's no excuse, he still plays great.
I think the problem here is that in YOUR mind you are one of the best. I see you as a very good pub player. It is difficult for you to be better than a really good pub player.
Anyone (kEEpEr, FuDaddy, Acetone, dank, Sheila,or myself) can compile a video of clips of best shots made. It's not that we don't do it because we don't think we are good enough, or we don't make good shots, we don't do it because our egos do not need to be massaged.
I guess i have to aim and fire at corners more so everyone will think I am World Class. Or just run around shooting at nothing.
All of the explananations that you have offered is that you are just at such a high level, that everyome else is ignorant, and in awe. We don't know about things like fov, sensitivity, etc., and none of us has spent years tweaking our cfg. None of us has a 24" monitor, maybe. I think mine is 23.5 corner to corner. Looking DOWN on FSK players is probably not in your best interest, in your position.