BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?

russa, Tue Jul 23 2013, 03:54PM

Last night playing with Nikki we suspected this player. Nikki and I did a few things to check if this was true. Map was prague and you can see from the players game play, they have the drop and everyone in front of them. Nikki hid behind a wall to see if the player would spot her. The player spotted her once through the wall and then again later to get the kill. Watch this normal and then shownormals and you'll see what I mean.
Demo:
http://www.mediafire.com/?gzd4kud4fis86kw
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
dedBuNNy, Fri Jul 26 2013, 07:40PM

If you're talking about the part around 6:00 where a blue player is 'hiding', well.... not quite. That player is visible as nihilist runs by to grab the flag then comes back and tags them.

I've played with BN for over 4 years off and on at various places, she's been demoed and reviewed so many times, lost track. Cleared every time.

She's just a very very practised and good player. Knows most maps very well and I realize this is 4.2, but she'll already be all over that map.. lol

BN doesn't cheat.
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
Boogie Knight, Fri Jul 26 2013, 09:41PM

I thought she noticed him a couple of times on the way in, but didn't pay him any attention til she had the flag, and took him out to cover her tracks on the way back. Also checks the ramps for campers coming out of spawn just before grabbing the flag. That COULD look fishy, but I do the same thing.
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
Explorateur, Fri Jul 26 2013, 10:07PM

Ive played with players for many years only to find out later that they did in fact cheat...just because someone is a good player and you have played with them for many years doesn't place them above suspicion.
Nice to have a new person in the forums, welcome dedbunny :)
Your first paragraph bunny was good info the rest total opinion.

XP
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
GreenEyes, Sat Jul 27 2013, 01:02AM

Things that make ya go Hmmmmmm
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
Squrl, Mon Jul 29 2013, 12:14PM

greenie you know that opened you up for this right?.......is hmmmmmm like hummin on a sack? hehe sorry couldnt resist
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
russa, Mon Jul 29 2013, 01:37PM


If you're talking about the part around 6:00 where a blue player is 'hiding', well.... not quite. That player is visible as nihilist runs by to grab the flag then comes back and tags them.

I've played with BN for over 4 years off and on at various places, she's been demoed and reviewed so many times, lost track. Cleared every time.

She's just a very very practised and good player. Knows most maps very well and I realize this is 4.2, but she'll already be all over that map.. lol

BN doesn't cheat.

dedBuNNy
Did you watch this with shownormals? Nikki had been hiding there for a long time. She was spotted through the wall one time before 6:00 but also a few minutes before that. Watch it again and you'll see what I mean. In my book nobody is above cheating, so ruling her out is not going to happen.
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
dedBuNNy, Mon Jul 29 2013, 04:46PM

Did you watch this with shownormals?

Yes, I know how to review demos.

Setting aside knowing how she plays, there isn't anything in that demo that is very 'suspect' or 'iffy' at all.

I will say this, if she starts playing here regularly you'll get to watch plenty of demos for a while til you get used to her style of murder n torment. LoL

I also agree, anyone is capable of cheating, catching them is another matter and can be a time consuming endeavor.
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
russa, Mon Jul 29 2013, 05:00PM

I haven't really seen you in the community much DedBunny, have you been around for years. I will say this you must not have watched the demo with shownormals because most of the kills on this demo are suspect. You can say that sound and map knowledge have a lot to do with a players ability to get kills. In the demo almost every time she turns the corner her aim is pre aimed on the area the play is. If its not walling then radar, the spot you talked about at 6:00, yes at 6:00 she shots nikki by water fountain but nikki had been there for a long time. Did you see the time before that when she spots her through the wall then looks away. Nothing suspect? The entire demo is suspect but we'll keep an eye out.
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
Reflux, Mon Jul 29 2013, 05:30PM

And let us remember this ... nobody gets banned on a FSK405 server unless by the hand of a FSK405 member. While we value the input of our regulars, it is not their task to assign a verdict. We will be the judge. We may not even explain ourselves. We do not condone in-game hacusations. If somebody is cheating, submit a demo, explain what you see, let the jury decide, enjoy the game. By all means, let them cheat themselves into a ban.

Other than that, welcome dedBuNNy & beautifulNihilist. We LOVE to see the community still active and hopefully growing. There are a lot of "old timers" and noobs. I see you and beautifulNihilist lobbying the UrT forums where I often bitch and moan about something myself. It's good to see new faces around here.

-Reflux

Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
dedBuNNy, Mon Jul 29 2013, 05:56PM

... but we'll keep an eye out.


Have fun with that. ;-)
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
Tranc3r, Mon Jul 29 2013, 06:32PM

Welcome to the forums dedBuNNy!

Here, have a complimentary doughnut! Oh... oopsie, I ate it.. =(
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
Boogie Knight, Mon Jul 29 2013, 07:10PM

I've seen dedBunny on other servers for about a year I guess. Not saying that he is new to UrT. He is an accomplished player in his own right. I would guess he has been around much longer than that.
But this is not about guessing anything. "Suspect" and "Fishy" don't get people banned. I only watched twice with shownormals. I need to watch without a couple of times.
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
Boogie Knight, Mon Jul 29 2013, 07:53PM

On her 1st trip down to enemy end of map I think she becomes aware of someone behind the wall because Kitty shifts around a lot, and with decent headphones I think you could hear her pretty well. I could hear her with speakers amped a little. If she was walling, then it's hard to explain the action on her 1st trip to the bridge. She appears to use an amount of caution, and with shownormals, you can clearly see an enemy outside of the door. But she DOESN'T see him, and he comes in for the kill, catching her by surprise. There is at least one other instance where she comes out the door to the bridge and enemy can be seen with shownormals, but again, she isn't aware that they are there. My vote would be F2. If suspect, I would try getting a longer demo. Just as you began to get my interest, you joined the game.
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
dedBuNNy, Mon Jul 29 2013, 08:14PM

Not saying that he is new to UrT.

Been playing since you could free-wheel with the SR8 and not go 'wtf'? ;-) Aaaahhh the good old days, when you could wear white.... lol

I stopped playing for about 5 years, off and on for the last few of years again. Admin'd at a couple of places for a while, reviewed/voted demos at uaa as well... when it was functional.

Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
russa, Mon Jul 29 2013, 08:39PM


We do not condone in-game hacusations.

Reflux
I'm sure this is directed at me but has nothing to do with this thread because no ingame hacuastions took place.
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
fu daddy, Tue Jul 30 2013, 06:46AM

Russa, I think that was just a general statement.

Also, "everything Reflux said".
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
bN, Tue Jul 30 2013, 11:59AM

LOL
hi Russa.
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
Frog, Sat Aug 03 2013, 02:50PM

Welcome to the forums BN and DedBunny. Thank you for being level headed in this discussion thread.

We appropriate Russa, as he has a history of "finding" hax. Russa as many of us are, is not 100% correct all the time. Personally I would take this as a compliment to your skill level and file it away as an at-a-boy/girl.

As you folks can imagine, FSK405 as a no hacking rule on our servers. We have always respected the community when a demo is brought to our attention. That being said, I didn't find this demo to be condemning and hope that this can be put to bed by all parties and enjoy the fact that FSK405 4.2.x servers have be populated. Lets rejoice about that for a moment.

Once again, welcome to the FSK405 community of members and our close friends:-)

Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
bN, Wed Aug 07 2013, 10:51PM

I'm pretty hooked on 4.2 and this server is home, when it's open.
Glad to see fsk405 is still around!
What I'm really starting to like about 4.2 is seeing all the people still holding on. I haven't played with dedBuNNy or test or Tranc3r or most of these people for a few years.

I've been behind enough servers that I'd employ Russa to be suspicious and demo everybody. A bad admin is one who doesn't take demos at all. I've also been the title of many forums threads in the demo sections, enough that I don't take any bruises from it.

and Russa:
if you keep following me from server to server calling hax, I'm going to make an ass of you every time. More demos, fewer words.

hugs
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
Tranc3r, Thu Aug 08 2013, 12:32AM

YES!!
GROUP HUGS ALL AROUND <3

Fn9Wh8e

Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
russa, Thu Aug 08 2013, 02:25AM

Following you from server to server calling hax is a little much but cool. Yes, I look like a real ass. lol
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
bN, Thu Aug 08 2013, 01:53PM

Fuckin' A!
Way to take it on the chin, Russa!

We're square in my book.

Game on!
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
Explorateur, Fri Aug 09 2013, 07:14AM

Hey Russa how come you won't take it on the chin from me?

Had to throw it out there before the adults locked this thread :)

XP
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
Squrl, Fri Aug 09 2013, 03:27PM

ROFLMFAO!!!!!!! Anyhow back to the thread topic, bN nice to have you around I just wish that you wouldnt own me as much! Now if we can just get you into teamspeak!
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
YouBleedRed, Fri Aug 09 2013, 06:48PM

I speced her the other day after a rage quit and with that being said I was happy to say that i feel that her skills with autos seem to be refined enough to suggest pure skill. However I did want to question the semi-auto option and how she has an excellent eye for getting the exact map positioning.

Other than that im sure she will be noticed if she does
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
bN, Fri Aug 09 2013, 08:12PM

When I use the AK I either take a laser with a Beretta or no laser, 1911, MP5 and AK on semi-auto.
When I semi my AK I try to use it like a G36/PSG, when I full auto I use it like an LRM4300 that reloads less often.

I try to never use the G36, there's always a better weapon to fill the role for me; PSG or AK.

When you play with the PSG all day, you find little cracks to do maximum damage and leave quickly, but these positions are closer to AUTO/G36 attack positions and less like SR8 attack positions.
Stay calm and learn to dance. The PSG is never wrong, it is the user that misses.

Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
Squrl, Fri Aug 09 2013, 08:40PM

and that lesson folks brought to you by the High priestess of the PSG-1........any questions?
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
bN, Fri Aug 09 2013, 08:51PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSvtGQUqldA
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
Reflux, Fri Aug 09 2013, 09:10PM

bN, You MUST get a decent headset and hang with us in TS3. Apart from a few exceptions, most of them posting here in this thread 8) , we're a fun crew to hang with. we're always doin a Fraggin' Friday, but often times we're fraggin' most every day.


-Reflux
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
bN, Sat Aug 10 2013, 12:04AM

lol.
My headphones are awesome, but I even have in game chat disabled half the time.
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
Tranc3r, Sat Aug 10 2013, 12:31AM

I'm jelly of your sound setup =[

T9DWxWI
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
Squrl, Sat Aug 10 2013, 11:50AM

We still want you to come into teamspeak hhehe, fsk405.com is teh addy =] we make no promises as to being hit on though jk jk, it's just nice to put a voice with a player that is a regular on the FSK server is all. I'm not FSK but I have been playing with those folks since I started playing like 09 lol. Yea i know i got a late start compared to everyone else as console games are still my number 1 love. If it werent for urban terror this rig would be useless. Anyhow FSK is a great group of folks bN, ya should join them(us) in teamspeak occasionally er at least one night, as mentioned they do a fraggin friday every week an someone dj"s the server which is really nice. They also have a sunday scrim but it is REQUIRED to be in teamspeak =] on a side note rofl @ tranc3r pic of bN's headphone setup!
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
bN, Mon Sept 02 2013, 07:33PM

I just found this match against GlaD I had where I went semi-auto AK the whole time:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/wckcco

Sometimes it's just the only thing that works.
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
russa, Tue Sept 03 2013, 12:32AM

Lol, squrl, I'm pretty sure BN is a dude.
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
bN, Tue Sept 03 2013, 01:08AM

Depends on what's playing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMTowz7Pnr4
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
bN, Tue Nov 19 2013, 08:24PM

Hey russa.
You're still following me server to server calling hacks.

So long as you assume something that defeats you has an artificial advantage, you cripple yourself and set a limit to what you can overcome.
So long as you assume actions can only be achieved with cheating, you will never be able to achieve them.

So long as you open your stupid mouth every time I reflex plink you, we all laugh at you.
Thank you for this.
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
russa, Wed Nov 20 2013, 05:25PM

Your the one who said that you were running some kind of beta version of 4.2. If and lets say you are running a beta version test. Then it would not be able to play on existing servers, you would have to play on a server that is set up for the beta version. What I said was that you will come out as un pure client and they will get your name on the ban list. It's funny that after I told you this, you decided to turn you auth system off. Sooooo?
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
russa, Wed Nov 20 2013, 05:28PM

BTW, I'm not following you, so don't flatter yourself. I'm not into dudes, but XP maybe interested.
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
stalker, Wed Nov 20 2013, 06:31PM

Fact #1: Running newer versions of ut 4.2 on previous versions of 4.2 is completely legit and doable.

Fact #2 Pure / unpure client has nothing to do with the FS anti-cheat

Fact #3 All un-auth players are cheaters. Russa did a survey of all his buddies to prove this.

Fact #4 When russa speaks, he only makes a bigger ass of himself than he did that previous time he spoke.

Why ruin a perfectly nice ass talking out of it?

-meh
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
russa, Wed Nov 20 2013, 06:54PM

Fact 5- This is your first post.
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
Explorateur, Wed Nov 20 2013, 09:48PM

lol who the fk is stalker? Must be someone of much intelligence and importance, or hes just stupid...Im goin with stupid :)
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
DankRider, Wed Nov 20 2013, 10:38PM

Russa, for someone that has been caught and got away with it in the past, I'm not sure why your pointing fingers.
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
russa, Thu Nov 21 2013, 12:07AM

Lets make something clear Dank, there was no demo or PB ban. Lets say I was cheating for years don't you think they would've had some kind of demo? You will never find one because I've always played clean. As for trying to catch haxors, well that got me in a bit of hot water.

Here is how this story goes Dank, we were at Fallen-Angels which has nothing to do with FSK period. I told BF that his name has showed up on the new urt ban list. He was said," what new ban list", I said," the new aca ban list. He then asked where is it, I said," it hasn't been released to the public yet". I said, "I've seen it but it only shows that you are an un pure client. Then has says, "well maybe its the optimized q3 beta client test that I'm running. I was like if you've recompiled you own client then you may show up on the ban list. Mind you that he was auth'd at the time of this incident, since then he has de auth'd. That it, end of story.

BTW, I was pulling his leg the entire time, but he kept typing.

Why BN decided to post here and not at clan6thfloor.com, maybe he likes the attention. It's kind of like how for years he's convince people that they are being beaten by a girl. He'll show up in teamspeak never talk then have his lady, Love of the Dark show up and call him her girlfriend. He even had his own teammates at WTF convinced, but a few of them new the truth of coarse.
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
Tranc3r, Thu Nov 21 2013, 12:18AM

Holy crap, can someone just lock this thread already. Nothing constructive will occur on this thread in the foreseeable millennium.

bN, no 'new' demo has been posted yet, so no need to bring this up again, plus it doesn't seem like a recent event in our server. This thread was dead and I was hoping it would've remained that way. If you think Russa is stalkin' you and you got an issue with it, the PM system works on this site.
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
russa, Thu Nov 21 2013, 12:33AM

Well said Trancer. Man that boy is growing up, I'm telling you.
Re: BeatufulNihilist 4.2 Wallhack?
LadyHellfire*, Thu Nov 21 2013, 01:56AM

LOCKED. BN is not hacking, which was the question the thread posed. End of discussion.

Thank you! Come again!