Re: [poll] Hot Potato Time Limit Poll
GreenEyes, Fri Dec 23 2011, 05:01PM

I say 3 or 4 =)

Re: [poll] Hot Potato Time Limit Poll
BanMe, Fri Dec 23 2011, 05:08PM

I didn't like it at 2 minutes at first but I kind of like it now. Games feel like they go a lot faster and the team that is winning can't just hide the flag and drag the match on until they win.

Re: [poll] Hot Potato Time Limit Poll
FSK405|worm, Fri Dec 23 2011, 05:16PM

It's tough, as different games demand a different time, which is of course impossible! I chuckled that 6 minutes wasn't given as an option in the poll, but having given 2 mins a chance I do agree that shorter than 6 mins would work, as low as 2 mins does take something away from the game though - it was designed as a huge map with a few hidey holes on purpose of course.

F1 for 4.

Re: [poll] Hot Potato Time Limit Poll
FSK405|EZ, Fri Dec 23 2011, 08:56PM

3

Re: [poll] Hot Potato Time Limit Poll
risk, Fri Dec 23 2011, 10:28PM

I have been enjoying the 2 minute potato lately, but I think it can be more a function of how many players are on each team.

When the server is full or nearly so, the short potato time keeps the game moving fast. (sometimes too fast perhaps)
And when teams are say 4vs4 or fewer, there is less boring standoff time.
Unfortunately, when teams are mid-sized, two minutes often isn't quite enough time to track down the flag.

My vote:
2 - 7 players in server = 2 minutes
8 - 13 = 3 minutes
14+ = 2 minutes

Re: [poll] Hot Potato Time Limit Poll
Boogie Knight, Fri Dec 23 2011, 11:44PM

That would be nice but I don't think it's possible

Re: [poll] Hot Potato Time Limit Poll
BanMe, Sat Dec 24 2011, 12:24AM

I've seen stuff similar to that done on some other servers. The timelimit/caplimit would change based on the number of players. I think they did it through b3, but i'm not sure.

Re: [poll] Hot Potato Time Limit Poll
creeper, Sat Dec 24 2011, 02:02AM

i agree with risk too, and i also can't imagine b3 would have trouble with doing that. i'm pretty sure i could make a plugin to do that if one doesn't exist.

(i do like the short time on what would otherwise be boring "no real action" matches.)

Re: [poll] Hot Potato Time Limit Poll
DeviL, Sat Dec 24 2011, 03:54AM

3 minutes.
enough for one side to get a safe place for it and for the other team to track it and get it back.
2 mins too short for newbies, bad jumpers and BanMe's.
4-5 minutes could be much too long if people start playing 'doorgames' - hiding behind doom or anywhere.

Re: [poll] Hot Potato Time Limit Poll
Boogie Knight, Sat Dec 24 2011, 08:30AM

Sometimes there are 4 or 5 players sitting in spec. I would hate to see that influence the time limit.

Re: [poll] Hot Potato Time Limit Poll
AceTone, Sat Dec 24 2011, 08:36AM

I've seen stuff similar to that done on some other servers. The timelimit/caplimit would change based on the number of players. I think they did it through b3, but i'm not sure.

BanMe

Seen this too. I **think** it's those 'best of Z best servers' if anyone wants to pursue this further. From a players perspective it confuses me when suddenly the timelimit or caplimit changes dynamically mid-game. Not that it takes much to confuse me, but they don't even BIGTEXT the changes so sometimes you miss it. Kewl concept but I'm not a fan.

Looks like 3 mins is the happy middle ground. Good news is that it can easily be changed!

Thanks FSK for polling the community and soliciting our feedback.

Re: [poll] Hot Potato Time Limit Poll
theSheilaDivine, Sat Dec 24 2011, 11:26AM

We tried 30 second hot potatoes for a while a couple days ago and it was lots of fun.

Re: [poll] Hot Potato Time Limit Poll
risk, Sat Dec 24 2011, 12:44PM

lol @ 30seconds. With the right players that could be a hoot.

Yeah. Three minutes seems to be the happy middle ground for most situations. Usually there are enough decent people on the server to compensate for the noobie "rubberneckers". Now that I've spent some time at two minutes, going to four just seems too long.

When there are 20+ players I would prefer a shorter time, as there are plenty of teammates to check the various hiding places, but Boogie brings up a good point.
How would the number of spectators affect the player count?

Re: [poll] Hot Potato Time Limit Poll
deleted-user, Sat Dec 24 2011, 01:02PM

I voted.

I want a b3 plugin to nuke the flag carriers after 3 mins of standoff...constantly!

Re: [poll] Hot Potato Time Limit Poll
BatMann, Sat Dec 24 2011, 02:15PM

lol

Re: [poll] Hot Potato Time Limit Poll
DeviL, Sat Dec 24 2011, 03:42PM

*3 seconds

Re: [poll] Hot Potato Time Limit Poll
BanMe, Sat Dec 24 2011, 04:19PM

Grab the flag and instantly start getting nuked. Encourage player movement.

Re: [poll] Hot Potato Time Limit Poll
creeper, Sat Dec 24 2011, 11:56PM

man this map's concepts have only just begun.
i will never say anything like this in public w/o saying wily made something special,
BUT this just goes to show we need more superman style maps.
i tried learning map making and im sub par.
i sometimes imagine using fund raising to pay someone.
where am i going with this ? idk

big maps with directed arrows.
and pros modify the direction.
that's the recipe.

again "wily duck"

Re: [poll] Hot Potato Time Limit Poll
Binge and Grab, Sun Dec 25 2011, 01:54AM

voted for 2, really should be 1min tho, this is a game of speed, not hiding or heaven forbid dropping the flag off the side of the building. a cap should take no longer than 15 seconds.

Re: [poll] Hot Potato Time Limit Poll
BanMe, Sun Dec 25 2011, 04:04AM

not hiding or heaven forbid dropping the flag off the side of the building.

Binge and Grab

Haters gunna hate. :>

That tactic actually hurts more then it helps most of the time. Drop flag of side the second the other one returns. No 5 second cap for you :<

Re: [poll] Hot Potato Time Limit Poll
Boogie Knight, Sun Dec 25 2011, 07:55AM

Keep in mind that most players who are relatively new or even medium skills players do not make all the jumps that some of you guys do. They still take the arrow to the garage, land on truck, maybe scope out things while they grab a breath, and then go back to base. Or they go the doom route. A low time would eventually discourage newer players and the population of the server would fall off.

Re: [poll] Hot Potato Time Limit Poll
creeper, Sun Dec 25 2011, 08:53AM

that is a very good point for 90% of the time when non pros are playing.

Re: [poll] Hot Potato Time Limit Poll
creeper, Sun Dec 25 2011, 08:54AM

let me make a b3 plugin :)
i just want to be famous, and your guys will vet the code, no weird shenanigry.

Re: [poll] Hot Potato Time Limit Poll
theSheilaDivine, Sun Dec 25 2011, 10:43AM

The hot potato timer only starts when both flags are taken. Non pro superman players are usually not hiders or keep away tacticians, so the 2 min has no bearing. It's a style of play that people adjust to.

Frankly this poll is unnecessary. I only set it to 2 minutes for a change of pace. We can set it back and forth and try different things. We don't need a resounding poll of permanence to determine the final hot potitty time.

I had already put it back to three minutes before this thread started, but because it wasn't written to the config file, it reverted back. I'll check with the powers that be, learn how to do it properly and the problem will be solved. And then, when I'm on, we'll set it to 5 second hot potitty.

I feel the need! The need for speed!

Re: [poll] Hot Potato Time Limit Poll
Binge and Grab, Sun Dec 25 2011, 09:02PM

i got no problem with letting them grab a breath, but 4 mins enough to grab a beer, your crotch and a slice of pizza !

Re: [poll] Hot Potato Time Limit Poll
Boogie Knight, Mon Dec 26 2011, 08:24AM

I never meant for the outcome of the poll to be a permanent answer. Just thought it might be nice to get some feed back/input from the players.

Re: [poll] Hot Potato Time Limit Poll
Reflux, Mon Dec 26 2011, 01:19PM

I think the poll served a good purpose in finding what the players opinions were. As requested the map cycle file has been updated to use 3 mins. If you guys want 4, as the poll suggests, let me know.

Re: [poll] Hot Potato Time Limit Poll
poohster, Wed Dec 28 2011, 12:43AM

two min hot poratos was such an advantage to the experienced "self proclaimed" pro's that it drove off new players. No wonder they were for it. The server is already showing more life after the change to 3 min.

Re: [poll] Hot Potato Time Limit Poll
Good Luck, Wed Dec 28 2011, 03:26PM

Honestly with such a big map and so many places, you really do not want anything more then 3 min. Makes for a very slow game.

Oh and lol to whoever changed the cap limit to 21!
We hit 20 the other day and right as we capped I left my pc, got a drink, came upstairs to my pc only to see we lost 21 - 20!

OMFG!

Re: [poll] Hot Potato Time Limit Poll
>:(, Thu Jan 05 2012, 02:00PM

I think finding the FC is part of the game, and therefore prefer a longer potato time, but it doesn't really work on a server full of noobs who don't understand that they actually need to do something...