FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim
deleted-user, Fri Oct 29 2010, 04:08PM
So there's been some discussion on TS3 about creating an "invite-only" league between us friendly clans. We'd need a 4th clan in order to schedule a match for everyone every week. What are all of your thoughts?
Here's what's brewing in my mind. Points 2 & 3 would be the league's "anti-cheat" strategy.
1.) There wouldn't be a traditional "ladder" as there wouldn't be a traditional "end point" to the 'season'. It's just a weekly match with a clan we know isn't hacking. 2.) Clans added to the 'league team roster' would be invited by the current league members to join. 3.) Demos would be required after every match from every player. Demos would be posted in a "battle rant" thread on one of the clans' forums. (This keeps everyone honest.) 4.) Some method of deciding on maps to play would be used, so on and so forth. We can discuss how we'd come up with weekly maps/respawn times/etc in the thread.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim BanMe, Fri Oct 29 2010, 04:30PM
I liked the idea from FTW's triathlon to have 12 minute rounds.
Instead of doing two rounds of 25 minutes of one map it could be 2 12 minute rounds on Casa then another 2 12 minute rounds on Abbey. This way you can play a team on two different maps but it still only takes about an hour. With shorter round times it could also promote some faster game-play. We could add in longer re-spawn times to promote more teamwork. I think FTW's base is 14 seconds. We could try 15 and see how that works
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim LadyHellfire*, Fri Oct 29 2010, 04:45PM
I actually have some ideas on this.
Since the clans involved (thus far) appear to have enough players, plus those players we regularly interact with that are un-clanned, I think we might be able to field even more than 4 teams. We could, in fact, create our own little "league" of sorts.
Is there any way we could have a group of us meet on TS3 and discuss this? Heck- I could even offer web hosting (subdomain), and would be happy to be part of an admin team for it.
Very interested to hear others' POV and ideas.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim Gladi8r, Fri Oct 29 2010, 04:53PM
Excellent idea. So far, the FTW league has been a disappointment for me personally. There are some good players there, for sure, but there's also a lot of questionable play (not mentioning any geographic areas, SA) and tons of 'elitist' attitudes both among teams and league admins. Having our own little 'invite' league amongst regulars and friends would be tons of fun.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim russa, Fri Oct 29 2010, 11:37PM
I'm all in on this idea, I've talked with a few people from fsk and um3 and they think that this is a good idea. It would be a way to play and have fun without all the asshats. Posting the demo's would keep everyone honest and maybe even strengthn our strats for the release of 4.2. If this became popular, it might become alot of work and I'll volunteer my time to do whatever it takes to get this thing going. My neighbor has a good program for ladder system that picks random match-ups. I'll get it from him and submit it to hatches SSH server.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim Gladi8r, Fri Oct 29 2010, 11:47PM
Um3's server is also available most evenings, and seems to be on a very stable box with little other bandwidth usage.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim deleted-user, Sat Oct 30 2010, 12:50AM
Hmm...what times work for a TS3 meeting? Just the next time we're all on TS3?
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim BanMe, Sat Oct 30 2010, 07:46AM
] Hmm...what times work for a TS3 meeting? Just the next time we're all on TS3?
MrTinker[Um3
Sunday scrim? A big chunk of us are there most times.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim BanMe, Sat Oct 30 2010, 08:18AM
Since the clans involved (thus far) appear to have enough players, plus those players we regularly interact with that are un-clanned, I think we might be able to field even more than 4 teams. We could, in fact, create our own little "league" of sorts.
KittyWumpus*
FSK has enough members to have two teams. A few teams do this in FTW, they just have a slightly different tag so you know they're a different team. Like BanMe[Um3] and BanMe*Um3. This could give you a chance to bring more members in to league style play.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim FSK405 Earl, Mon Nov 01 2010, 12:04AM
Could you consider a "referee". 2 people spec during the match to watch for player integrity?
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim deleted-user, Mon Nov 01 2010, 12:53AM
Could you consider a "referee". 2 people spec during the match to watch for player integrity?
FSK405 Earl
Hmm...choose 2 refs out of a pool of 'candidates' randomly? Assign them to watch one of the matches held that night (also at random). They sit in spec and on a private TS3 channel and 'discuss' what they see.
Though I think we're fine so long as it's understood demos are submitted from everyone. If a player fails to post a demo within 3 days, then their team forfeits and is 'held back' from playing the next week. Some penalty structure like that.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim russa, Mon Nov 01 2010, 12:53AM
Thats a great idea.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim xyster, Mon Nov 01 2010, 10:26AM
Here's some of my ideas:
1. Demos? Maybe not. I have a shit PC and that could hurt my FPS. I never record demos. Since we are all in agreement that no one hacks in our clans, this is a mute point. Specs? I also don't think we need someone to police. If we have a sub, it would be for helping that team in strategy and to jump in if someone lags out. We can see how the first or second week goes and decide if there should be demos. I don't suspect anyone would be hacking. This is only for fun and the winner gets bragging rights, and teabagging privileges. (heh)
2. We can create a separate forum section for those players involved. Only match players would have access to it. Here, we can create a thread for map suggestions, then create one afterward voting style. Which map would you like to play? a. Abby b. Casa, etc.
3. I like the random ladder suggestion for small teams.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim BanMe, Mon Nov 01 2010, 02:06PM
4th Team: Bver was talking about pulling at random from each clan and mixing them with some of the un-clanned regular players. This way we could see what its like going against your own clan and learn from that. The new unclanned members wouldn't get discouraged being on a team with more experienced players.(think i got that right)
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim deleted-user, Mon Nov 01 2010, 02:22PM
Hmm...anyone know about GTV? It's a spec-client that randomly switches between players (I think) and live streams the game for viewers. We could GTV every match and record the output. No player would have any way of knowing whether they're being watched or not. I have no idea how feasible it is to set up...so it might be completely bonkers.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim Boogie Knight, Mon Nov 01 2010, 02:27PM
GTV is run by the "cameraman". Not random. Other than the clans involved I don't know who else would be interested.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim |$|Son, Mon Nov 01 2010, 03:29PM
If it wasn´t the time difference i sincerilly would love to participate in some scrims. At this time my professional activity is not compatible with the timings. At yours 7.pm or 8, In this 3rd world its 4 am already. But IF i have a break ill talk to u guys to see if i would help to :)
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim Gladi8r, Mon Nov 01 2010, 03:49PM
] 4th Team: Bver was talking about pulling at random from each clan and mixing them with some of the un-clanned regular players. This way we could see what its like going against your own clan and learn from that. The new unclanned members wouldn't get discouraged being on a team with more experienced players.(think i got that right)
BanMe[Um3
That's a pretty interesting concept. Might just work if enough are on board.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim DankRider, Mon Nov 01 2010, 07:45PM
If we could identify 6 trusted clans we would have enough for a small ladder. Otherwise if we had one other clan we could do some weekly clan swapping.
speaking out loud but the 1up clan seems to have some good folks. Though I dont know a lot about the community as a whole.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim deleted-user, Mon Nov 01 2010, 07:50PM
I'd second 1up's nomination, easily.
How about b00bs = n00bs who like boobs? Their name is silly, but they show promise and (IIRC) their gameplay was honest..
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim BanMe, Mon Nov 01 2010, 08:07PM
Would Ven be interested kEEpEr?
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim creeper, Mon Nov 01 2010, 08:25PM
I've liked 1up in our interactions with them.
I also like compulsory demos.
It just helps keep us honest , AND no one has to ask for a demo.
asking for a demo to some implies "you hack".
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim Gladi8r, Mon Nov 01 2010, 11:13PM
Yep- 1up has some good people. 'Boobs' also struck me as folks with good attitudes and fun folks to game with.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim Good Luck, Mon Nov 08 2010, 12:52PM
Ven is currently going through a transitional period right now. We bearly have enuff in the clan to make a team (with me), nevermind commit to something like this. I think you guys should try another clan. I will ask them tho.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim Good Luck, Mon Nov 08 2010, 12:54PM
How about NN?
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim Gladi8r, Mon Nov 08 2010, 05:13PM
Ven is currently going through a transitional period right now. We bearly have enuff in the clan to make a team (with me), nevermind commit to something like this. I think you guys should try another clan. I will ask them tho.
tEh-kEEpEr
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim el kabong, Fri Nov 12 2010, 04:55PM
How about asking 30+ and b00bs clans to join us ?
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim xyster, Fri Nov 12 2010, 05:06PM
How about asking 30+ and b00bs clans to join us ?
el kabong
i'm all for both of those. are there enough 30+ still around? what night of the week would be the best for another match? if we stick with thursdays, then someone would have to sit out a week.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim Boogie Knight, Fri Nov 12 2010, 05:40PM
Wonder if it would be possible...you mapsters. Another thread gave me an idea. Might be kool, might totally suck. How about a map like, square, like a gameboard (but without any gameboard graphics), that would have a flag in each corner, that each of 4 clans must defend or cap to. Essentially, CTF, but doubled. Is that possible? Might have to limit each team to 4 or 5 players. Doesn't have to be square but I thought that would be easiest to make symmetrical, and fair.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim creeper, Fri Nov 12 2010, 05:49PM
hah yeah that political compass thread , good idea.
but i doubt it's possible to have anything but 2 teams in UrT.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim deleted-user, Fri Nov 12 2010, 05:53PM
You could place two flags on either side of a square (that's essentially what crazy christmas is).
The trouble is there'd be no way to control which clan spawns where. I suppose each team side could spawn in one central location and have like portals to either A or B.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim el kabong, Sat Nov 13 2010, 09:36AM
I mentioned the league to ZooDan 30+ last night, He said he'd ask the boys if they'd like to participate.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim xyster, Sat Nov 13 2010, 09:58AM
I mentioned the league to ZooDan 30+ last night, He said he'd ask the boys if they'd like to participate.
el kabong
thanks buddy. that's awesome!
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim Zafrius, Sat Nov 13 2010, 10:26AM
] Yep- 1up has some good people. 'Boobs' and 'TRY' were 2 other clans that struck me as folks with good attitudes and fun folks to game with.
Gladi8r[Um3
BOOOOBIES!!!!!!(motor boat sounds)
Ya, I am getting to know the boobs clan.Never ts, but I love Uptown 24/7 and they are great, clean players. 1up is a great server.Don`t know about the clan though.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim LtStriker, Tue Nov 16 2010, 10:10PM
Hi
Lt Striker here, team lead of 30+ clan. I put out a feeler to the guys and gal and we are interested in playing on your ladder. As we all are working and have families it will depend on what days we pull for matches. Friday nights work best for us.
Thanks to el kabong for thinking of us. We have also tried the ladders in the past and left with an uneasy feeling in the pit of our stomachs, not to mention a whole lot of lead in our backsides.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim russa, Wed Nov 17 2010, 10:07AM
I think the purpose of this league ladder system is to bring in friendly, mature and trusted clans. Bring in clans such as Vex, Xev and NN defeats the purpose of this league. Its an FSK and friends league and don't see many of them as being friends of the group. This is just my 2 cents.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim deleted-user, Wed Nov 17 2010, 12:14PM
Hmm...kind of wish we had a "friends only" section for discussing invites/applications and whatever else needs confidentiality. Then have a world-viewable section (like this) for everything else. Just my .02.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim xyster, Wed Nov 17 2010, 01:07PM
] Hmm...kind of wish we had a "friends only" section for discussing invites/applications and whatever else needs confidentiality. Then have a world-viewable section (like this) for everything else. Just my .02.
MrTinker[Um3
i'm looking into that.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim BanMe, Wed Nov 17 2010, 01:41PM
]"friends only"
MrTinker[Um3
Can...can..can I be your friend?
In all seriousness thats a pretty good idea
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim DankRider, Wed Nov 17 2010, 03:32PM
not an easy task to make a friends only section. meaning whom ever creates the section would have to find and add all of [Um3]/6th/FSK405 members adding them one at a time.
maybe you can talk fokker into doing it. Send him a PM with the forum registered name's of each team member.
-- Or better yet find a web guru and have them toss together a invite only UrT competition ladder site, with its own forums. That way it would be easy to add additional teams while growing the idea. In the event this would happen Each team should have 1-2 representatives that can be the voice of their team, regarding rules and additional teams, exc.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim Gladi8r, Thu Nov 18 2010, 11:33AM
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Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim Gladi8r, Thu Nov 18 2010, 11:47AM
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Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim Littlefoot, Thu Nov 18 2010, 12:54PM
You know, I was thinking about this the other day...the thought was "there sure is a lot of talk, wonder when there will be some action?" I think the talk is good and I think not rushing into things will only help to make the experience positive for all who may be involved.
Good suggestions and offer Glad!
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim deleted-user, Thu Nov 18 2010, 02:31PM
Creeper and I came up with the name "Friendlies" yesterday in a mutual brainstorm.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim creeper, Thu Nov 18 2010, 03:00PM
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim DankRider, Thu Nov 18 2010, 05:14PM
You freaking ROCK creeper. If needed we can host the site. Again You the man!! - May be able to strip some ideas from the TWL site. They no longer support UrT but their ladder system is on point and could be used as a bench mark. - TWL site: http://www.teamwarfare.com/
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim Bong, Sat Nov 20 2010, 01:33PM
Just so y'all know, I think this is a great Idea and would love competing in a league or ladder that Im positive has players that do not hack! I dont like to compete anymore because of not having anticheat. With this trusted clans thing, it should take the stress out of losing a bit and make it more of a learning/practice environment. I am sooooooo in!
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim HatchetmaN, Sat Nov 20 2010, 02:57PM
With all the active members of FSK405 there should be no prob running a extra team if needed. How ever many clans are invited and in being in good fun could assist a brother or sister clan with filling a roster for the night.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim creeper, Sun Nov 21 2010, 05:13PM
I put a simple forum up. lemme know what you all think.
I set up a group in there "members" that controls access to a private forum section. So after registering an admin just flips the members group on for that user.
Please don't upload huge files, i don't have much disk on that server :)
Forums and Catefories are controlled thru an admin interface. I can add you in to that if you want to try it.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim deleted-user, Wed Nov 24 2010, 12:38PM
Topic on the new forum about the new forum and league: