FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim

deleted-user, Fri Oct 29 2010, 04:08PM

So there's been some discussion on TS3 about creating an "invite-only" league between us friendly clans. We'd need a 4th clan in order to schedule a match for everyone every week. What are all of your thoughts?

Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim
BanMe, Fri Oct 29 2010, 04:30PM

I liked the idea from FTW's triathlon to have 12 minute rounds.

Instead of doing two rounds of 25 minutes of one map it could be 2 12 minute rounds on Casa then another 2 12 minute rounds on Abbey. This way you can play a team on two different maps but it still only takes about an hour. With shorter round times it could also promote some faster game-play. We could add in longer re-spawn times to promote more teamwork. I think FTW's base is 14 seconds. We could try 15 and see how that works
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim
LadyHellfire*, Fri Oct 29 2010, 04:45PM

I actually have some ideas on this.

Since the clans involved (thus far) appear to have enough players, plus those players we regularly interact with that are un-clanned, I think we might be able to field even more than 4 teams. We could, in fact, create our own little "league" of sorts.

Is there any way we could have a group of us meet on TS3 and discuss this? Heck- I could even offer web hosting (subdomain), and would be happy to be part of an admin team for it.

Very interested to hear others' POV and ideas.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim
Gladi8r, Fri Oct 29 2010, 04:53PM

Excellent idea. So far, the FTW league has been a disappointment for me personally. There are some good players there, for sure, but there's also a lot of questionable play (not mentioning any geographic areas, SA) and tons of 'elitist' attitudes both among teams and league admins. Having our own little 'invite' league amongst regulars and friends would be tons of fun.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim
russa, Fri Oct 29 2010, 11:37PM

I'm all in on this idea, I've talked with a few people from fsk and um3 and they think that this is a good idea. It would be a way to play and have fun without all the asshats. Posting the demo's would keep everyone honest and maybe even strengthn our strats for the release of 4.2. If this became popular, it might become alot of work and I'll volunteer my time to do whatever it takes to get this thing going. My neighbor has a good program for ladder system that picks random match-ups. I'll get it from him and submit it to hatches SSH server.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim
Gladi8r, Fri Oct 29 2010, 11:47PM

Um3's server is also available most evenings, and seems to be on a very stable box with little other bandwidth usage.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim
deleted-user, Sat Oct 30 2010, 12:50AM

Hmm...what times work for a TS3 meeting? Just the next time we're all on TS3?
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BanMe, Sat Oct 30 2010, 07:46AM

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Hmm...what times work for a TS3 meeting? Just the next time we're all on TS3?

MrTinker[Um3
Sunday scrim? A big chunk of us are there most times.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim
BanMe, Sat Oct 30 2010, 08:18AM


Since the clans involved (thus far) appear to have enough players, plus those players we regularly interact with that are un-clanned, I think we might be able to field even more than 4 teams. We could, in fact, create our own little "league" of sorts.

KittyWumpus*

FSK has enough members to have two teams. A few teams do this in FTW, they just have a slightly different tag so you know they're a different team. Like BanMe[Um3] and BanMe*Um3. This could give you a chance to bring more members in to league style play.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim
FSK405 Earl, Mon Nov 01 2010, 12:04AM

Could you consider a "referee". 2 people spec during the match to watch for player integrity?
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim
deleted-user, Mon Nov 01 2010, 12:53AM


Could you consider a "referee". 2 people spec during the match to watch for player integrity?

FSK405 Earl
Hmm...choose 2 refs out of a pool of 'candidates' randomly? Assign them to watch one of the matches held that night (also at random). They sit in spec and on a private TS3 channel and 'discuss' what they see.

Though I think we're fine so long as it's understood demos are submitted from everyone. If a player fails to post a demo within 3 days, then their team forfeits and is 'held back' from playing the next week. Some penalty structure like that.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim
russa, Mon Nov 01 2010, 12:53AM

Thats a great idea.
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xyster, Mon Nov 01 2010, 10:26AM

Here's some of my ideas:

1. Demos? Maybe not. I have a shit PC and that could hurt my FPS. I never record demos. Since we are all in agreement that no one hacks in our clans, this is a mute point. Specs? I also don't think we need someone to police. If we have a sub, it would be for helping that team in strategy and to jump in if someone lags out. We can see how the first or second week goes and decide if there should be demos. I don't suspect anyone would be hacking. This is only for fun and the winner gets bragging rights, and teabagging privileges. (heh)

2. We can create a separate forum section for those players involved. Only match players would have access to it. Here, we can create a thread for map suggestions, then create one afterward voting style.
Which map would you like to play?
a. Abby
b. Casa, etc.

3. I like the random ladder suggestion for small teams.

4. Any ideas on the 4th clan? http://www.urbanterror.info/passport/groups/clans/

Just my thoughts.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim
BanMe, Mon Nov 01 2010, 02:06PM

4th Team: Bver was talking about pulling at random from each clan and mixing them with some of the un-clanned regular players. This way we could see what its like going against your own clan and learn from that. The new unclanned members wouldn't get discouraged being on a team with more experienced players.(think i got that right)

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deleted-user, Mon Nov 01 2010, 02:22PM

Hmm...anyone know about GTV? It's a spec-client that randomly switches between players (I think) and live streams the game for viewers. We could GTV every match and record the output. No player would have any way of knowing whether they're being watched or not. I have no idea how feasible it is to set up...so it might be completely bonkers.
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Boogie Knight, Mon Nov 01 2010, 02:27PM

GTV is run by the "cameraman". Not random. Other than the clans involved I don't know who else would be interested.
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|$|Son, Mon Nov 01 2010, 03:29PM

If it wasn´t the time difference i sincerilly would love to participate in some scrims. At this time my professional activity is not compatible with the timings.
At yours 7.pm or 8, In this 3rd world its 4 am already.
But IF i have a break ill talk to u guys to see if i would help to :)
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Gladi8r, Mon Nov 01 2010, 03:49PM

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4th Team: Bver was talking about pulling at random from each clan and mixing them with some of the un-clanned regular players. This way we could see what its like going against your own clan and learn from that. The new unclanned members wouldn't get discouraged being on a team with more experienced players.(think i got that right)


BanMe[Um3


That's a pretty interesting concept. Might just work if enough are on board.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim
DankRider, Mon Nov 01 2010, 07:45PM

If we could identify 6 trusted clans we would have enough for a small ladder. Otherwise if we had one other clan we could do some weekly clan swapping.

speaking out loud but the 1up clan seems to have some good folks. Though I dont know a lot about the community as a whole.
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deleted-user, Mon Nov 01 2010, 07:50PM

I'd second 1up's nomination, easily.

How about b00bs = n00bs who like boobs? Their name is silly, but they show promise and (IIRC) their gameplay was honest..
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim
BanMe, Mon Nov 01 2010, 08:07PM

Would Ven be interested kEEpEr?
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creeper, Mon Nov 01 2010, 08:25PM

I've liked 1up in our interactions with them.

I also like compulsory demos.

It just helps keep us honest , AND no one has to ask for a demo.

asking for a demo to some implies "you hack".
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim
Gladi8r, Mon Nov 01 2010, 11:13PM

Yep- 1up has some good people. 'Boobs' also struck me as folks with good attitudes and fun folks to game with.
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Good Luck, Mon Nov 08 2010, 12:52PM

Ven is currently going through a transitional period right now. We bearly have enuff in the clan to make a team (with me), nevermind commit to something like this.
I think you guys should try another clan.
I will ask them tho.
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Good Luck, Mon Nov 08 2010, 12:54PM

How about NN?
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Gladi8r, Mon Nov 08 2010, 05:13PM


Ven is currently going through a transitional period right now. We bearly have enuff in the clan to make a team (with me), nevermind commit to something like this.
I think you guys should try another clan.
I will ask them tho.

tEh-kEEpEr


Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim
el kabong, Fri Nov 12 2010, 04:55PM

How about asking 30+ and b00bs clans to join us ?
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xyster, Fri Nov 12 2010, 05:06PM


How about asking 30+ and b00bs clans to join us ?

el kabong
i'm all for both of those. are there enough 30+ still around? what night of the week would be the best for another match? if we stick with thursdays, then someone would have to sit out a week.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim
Boogie Knight, Fri Nov 12 2010, 05:40PM

Wonder if it would be possible...you mapsters. Another thread gave me an idea. Might be kool, might totally suck. How about a map like, square, like a gameboard (but without any gameboard graphics), that would have a flag in each corner, that each of 4 clans must defend or cap to. Essentially, CTF, but doubled. Is that possible? Might have to limit each team to 4 or 5 players. Doesn't have to be square but I thought that would be easiest to make symmetrical, and fair.
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creeper, Fri Nov 12 2010, 05:49PM

hah yeah that political compass thread , good idea.

but i doubt it's possible to have anything but 2 teams in UrT.

Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim
deleted-user, Fri Nov 12 2010, 05:53PM

You could place two flags on either side of a square (that's essentially what crazy christmas is).

The trouble is there'd be no way to control which clan spawns where. I suppose each team side could spawn in one central location and have like portals to either A or B.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim
el kabong, Sat Nov 13 2010, 09:36AM

I mentioned the league to ZooDan 30+ last night, He said he'd ask the boys if they'd like to participate.
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xyster, Sat Nov 13 2010, 09:58AM


I mentioned the league to ZooDan 30+ last night, He said he'd ask the boys if they'd like to participate.

el kabong
thanks buddy. that's awesome!
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Zafrius, Sat Nov 13 2010, 10:26AM

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Yep- 1up has some good people. 'Boobs' and 'TRY' were 2 other clans that struck me as folks with good attitudes and fun folks to game with.

Gladi8r[Um3

BOOOOBIES!!!!!!(motor boat sounds)

Ya, I am getting to know the boobs clan.Never ts, but I love Uptown 24/7 and they are great, clean players.
1up is a great server.Don`t know about the clan though.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim
LtStriker, Tue Nov 16 2010, 10:10PM

Hi

Lt Striker here, team lead of 30+ clan. I put out a feeler to the guys and gal and we are interested in playing on your ladder. As we all are working and have families it will depend on what days we pull for matches. Friday nights work best for us.

Thanks to el kabong for thinking of us. We have also tried the ladders in the past and left with an uneasy feeling in the pit of our stomachs, not to mention a whole lot of lead in our backsides.

Let us know what you decide. My email is @

Thanks again,

Striker


Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim
russa, Wed Nov 17 2010, 10:07AM

I think the purpose of this league ladder system is to bring in friendly, mature and trusted clans. Bring in clans such as Vex, Xev and NN defeats the purpose of this league. Its an FSK and friends league and don't see many of them as being friends of the group. This is just my 2 cents.
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deleted-user, Wed Nov 17 2010, 12:14PM

Hmm...kind of wish we had a "friends only" section for discussing invites/applications and whatever else needs confidentiality. Then have a world-viewable section (like this) for everything else. Just my .02.
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xyster, Wed Nov 17 2010, 01:07PM

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Hmm...kind of wish we had a "friends only" section for discussing invites/applications and whatever else needs confidentiality. Then have a world-viewable section (like this) for everything else. Just my .02.

MrTinker[Um3
i'm looking into that.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim
BanMe, Wed Nov 17 2010, 01:41PM

]"friends only"

MrTinker[Um3
Can...can..can I be your friend?

In all seriousness thats a pretty good idea
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim
DankRider, Wed Nov 17 2010, 03:32PM

not an easy task to make a friends only section. meaning whom ever creates the section would have to find and add all of [Um3]/6th/FSK405 members adding them one at a time.

maybe you can talk fokker into doing it. Send him a PM with the forum registered name's of each team member.

-- Or better yet find a web guru and have them toss together a invite only UrT competition ladder site, with its own forums. That way it would be easy to add additional teams while growing the idea. In the event this would happen Each team should have 1-2 representatives that can be the voice of their team, regarding rules and additional teams, exc.
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Gladi8r, Thu Nov 18 2010, 11:33AM

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Gladi8r, Thu Nov 18 2010, 11:47AM

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Littlefoot, Thu Nov 18 2010, 12:54PM

You know, I was thinking about this the other day...the thought was "there sure is a lot of talk, wonder when there will be some action?" I think the talk is good and I think not rushing into things will only help to make the experience positive for all who may be involved.

Good suggestions and offer Glad!
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deleted-user, Thu Nov 18 2010, 02:31PM

Creeper and I came up with the name "Friendlies" yesterday in a mutual brainstorm.
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creeper, Thu Nov 18 2010, 03:00PM

tinker means we came up with: FriendlyFire

I'm playing around with getting a forum up at http://friendlyfire.oldcode.org/ kinda in the vein of
what dank suggested.

I'll report back if i make progress.
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DankRider, Thu Nov 18 2010, 05:14PM

You freaking ROCK creeper. If needed we can host the site. Again You the man!!
- May be able to strip some ideas from the TWL site. They no longer support UrT but their ladder system is on point and could be used as a bench mark.
- TWL site: http://www.teamwarfare.com/


tinker means we came up with: FriendlyFire

I'm playing around with getting a forum up at http://friendlyfire.oldcode.org/ kinda in the vein of
what dank suggested.

I'll report back if i make progress.

creeper
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim
Bong, Sat Nov 20 2010, 01:33PM

Just so y'all know, I think this is a great Idea and would love competing in a league or ladder that Im positive has players that do not hack! I dont like to compete anymore because of not having anticheat. With this trusted clans thing, it should take the stress out of losing a bit and make it more of a learning/practice environment. I am sooooooo in!
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HatchetmaN, Sat Nov 20 2010, 02:57PM

With all the active members of FSK405 there should be no prob running a extra team if needed. How ever many clans are invited and in being in good fun could assist a brother or sister clan with filling a roster for the night.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim
creeper, Sun Nov 21 2010, 05:13PM

I put a simple forum up.
lemme know what you all think.

http://friendlyfire.oldcode.org/

I set up a group in there "members" that controls access to a private forum section.
So after registering an admin just flips the members group on for that user.

Please don't upload huge files, i don't have much disk on that server :)

Forums and Catefories are controlled thru an admin interface.
I can add you in to that if you want to try it.


Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim
deleted-user, Wed Nov 24 2010, 12:38PM

Topic on the new forum about the new forum and league:

http://friendlyfire.oldcode.org/forum/topic/7/?page=1
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim
LoLREX, Sun Dec 09 2012, 05:14PM

I would participate in this but... I'm not good... and my mouse broke... and my trackpad SUCKS ):
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Reflux, Sun Dec 09 2012, 11:18PM

Two year old thread?
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Tranc3r, Mon Dec 10 2012, 03:37PM


Two year old thread?

Reflux

He's a true stalker. Probly an informant of North Korea.
Re: FSK405, 6th floor, Um3, and a fourth clan weekly scrim
Binge and Grab, Mon Dec 10 2012, 05:29PM

anyone up for some 3v3 ?