Re: Mistaken Identity? Unban, please?
deleted-user, Tue Apr 20 2010, 07:33AM

Please stop having your 'friends' come on the superman server. The answer's not going to change because you ask it multiple times.

Aside from that, good luck. I hope you're innocent.

Re: Mistaken Identity? Unban, please?
|$|Son, Tue Apr 20 2010, 07:47AM

Honestly i really hope u got in middle on asshat and hax and were unfairly banned.

u always seemed to be a nice player and a good person to, but there were some guys using your name in game, and maybe the same IPs to, as u play in university.

honestly, dont share public computers to gameplay

Re: Mistaken Identity? Unban, please?
Salad, Tue Apr 20 2010, 07:53AM

Thanks, guys - hopefully see you all soon. Take care :)

Re: Mistaken Identity? Unban, please?
FSK405|worm, Tue Apr 20 2010, 10:55AM

Salad, the best and most relevant place to post about this is the Superman hackers thread. You can find it at http://www.fsk405.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?32858.last

Unless you have already pmed dankrider, I suggest you repost there. You can also see in that thread why you are banned. Specifically, pages 45, 47 and 48.

worm

Re: Mistaken Identity? Unban, please?
|$|Son, Tue Apr 20 2010, 11:41AM

rob i guess he got the ban because of Terminator guy, who used Fawky alias, Salad, ban_me.
when lots of ips were banned.

but see the thread that worm indicated u Salad, and check if u use any of those ips.

Re: Mistaken Identity? Unban, please?
FSK405|worm, Tue Apr 20 2010, 11:56AM

That may be so, but its not for me to say whether Salad remains banned or not. Might help if he can pm dank his home ip address.

Re: Mistaken Identity? Unban, please?
|$|Son, Tue Apr 20 2010, 01:33PM

i told him that yesterday. to ask dank about his situation and send him his IP to see if there is some problem.

just send him to here, i´m taking no one side.

but honestly i hope hes ok cause i like this Salad and i´m not vegan :P

Re: Mistaken Identity? Unban, please?
DankRider, Tue Apr 20 2010, 01:42PM

As salad is requesting to be unbanned we will have an open trial.. All evidence is out in the open.

-= Overview =-
- Up to this point it appears salad was a consistent player with minor offenses such as language.
- On trial for using hacks.

-= Evidence =-
Player Name: Terminator
uID: @67864
IP: 131.227.4.149
Offense: Hacking Aim Bot
Date: April 15 2010 9:30AM CST
Aliases: Fawky , noobsy, Killer, BanMe!, China-Girl, Salad
Demo / Proof Of hacking (Also shows time stamps that support the echelon Log files listed below.)


Banned IP's: IP's From University / home / Work
Salad - IP's and B3's Bannned:
131.227.76.45 @ 67704
131.227.76.53 @ 55389
86.153.100.151 @ 47722
131.227.112.110 @ 47317
89.74.212.183 @ 43039
131.227.112.61 @ 38530
131.227.112.66 @ 36829
86.149.59.209 @ 32538
86.149.209.95 @ 32316
131.227.76.45 @ 28227
131.227.76.45 @ 27421
86.154.174.234 @ 27096

Echelon / Superman Log Files: (Supports the Demo, Proof the UID & IP are of the same Player)

66104 de-activate / unban Ban 0 Thursday, 15/04/2010 (12:55) permanent Banned by an Echelon WebAdmin (by dankrider)
( ) B3
66099 de-activate / unban TempBan 0 Thursday, 15/04/2010 (10:32) Thursday, 15/04/2010 (13:32) too many warnings: Rule #4: Do NOT cheat or use hacks. You will be permanently banned.
( ) |$|osko.
66098 de-activate / unban Warning 0 Thursday, 15/04/2010 (10:32) Friday, 16/04/2010 (10:32) Rule #4: Do NOT cheat or use hacks. You will be permanently banned.
( ) |$|osko.
66097 de-activate / unban Warning 0 Thursday, 15/04/2010 (10:32) Friday, 16/04/2010 (10:32) Rule #4: Do NOT cheat or use hacks. You will be permanently banned.
( ) |$|osko.
66096 de-activate / unban Warning 0 Thursday, 15/04/2010 (10:32) Friday, 16/04/2010 (10:32) Rule #4: Do NOT cheat or use hacks. You will be permanently banned.
( ) |$|osko.
66095 de-activate / unban Warning 0 Thursday, 15/04/2010 (10:32) Friday, 16/04/2010 (10:32) Rule #4: Do NOT cheat or use hacks. You will be permanently banned.
( ) |$|osko.

Closing Notes:
- This is Salads opportunity to reflect and provide his statement. Might want to remember where you were on April 15th 2010 @ 9:30est
- If any Superman Admin see's a flaw in the evidence feel free to post a correction.

Re: Mistaken Identity? Unban, please?
Salad, Wed Apr 21 2010, 03:58AM

Well,
1. At first: Time of the offence doesn't add up as I am in GMT time zone (+6) so at the time of the ban in GMT is 16:32 PM. I finish work at 17:30 and play only at lunch time so it would be physically impossible for me to play at the time.
2. I have watched the demo and with all due respect matey is a noob (cannot even land the jump behind red base) and blatantly uses aimbot in the open - that's very special. I have never cheated (you might not believe me at this point but I shall try to defend my case below).
3. All aliases are not mine as I ONLY use SALAD. Fawky is person that I work with, I don't know the rest but I am emotionally attached to name Salad and I never have used other name while playing either from home or work. I have NEVER played under name 'terminator'.
4. My IP at work is fixed (131.227.76.45) and I am more than certain that IP of the 'terminator' (very original name - NOT) at the time of cheating wasn't mine. WHAT WAS IT? I am asking as I work in the IT dept (so I am not 14 and bored - just like Superman A LOT) and have an admin access to DHCP on most of the subnets (131.227.xxx.xxx is university IP range - lots of people here play) so I can nslookup him/her down and go all medieval on their arse. All what I need is an IP as I have got a time and date (15/04/2010 (10:32) Friday, 16/04/2010 (10:32) CST) when cheating took place.
5. All what I would like to request is unban just one IP - mine - 131.227.76.45 and problem solved - as this is my personal box and NO ONE else uses it (no more arsehat that has ruined my couple of days).
I repeat: I have NEVER used any other name than SALAD. Can you check logs because I am more than certain that no 'terminator' ever played from 131.227.76.45.

Maybe there was an IP mixup or something. If you have any more questions, please don't hesitate to ask. Looking forward to your reply and awaiting an offending IP.

Kind Regards,
Salad

Re: Mistaken Identity? Unban, please?
Salad, Wed Apr 21 2010, 05:45AM

Silly me - DankRider have posted IP already: 131.227.4.149. Sorry for that ...
I have checked DHCP logs for this subnet and it seems like it was someone from student accommodation (shared desktops). You are more than welcome to ban whole 131.227.4.xxx range as it will sort it out once and (hopefully) for all.
Cheers,
Salad

Re: Mistaken Identity? Unban, please?
Salad, Wed Apr 21 2010, 06:29AM

To Son:
Thanks mate. Feeling is quite mutual xD You are a good man and an excellent fighter - always have enjoyed playing with or against you. On top of that you do have a good sense of humor :)
Keep it up, mate and take care

Re: Mistaken Identity? Unban, please?
Salad, Wed Apr 21 2010, 06:37AM

Just to clarify: my fixed IP is 131.227.76.45, not 131.227.112.45
cheers,

Re: Mistaken Identity? Unban, please?
FSK405|worm, Wed Apr 21 2010, 07:26AM

Salad, I sincerely hope that you are found to have not used hax and that you get unbanned. For my part, please accept my apologies for any inconvenience caused if you have been unjustly banned (which it sounds like you may have been, but as a result of carelessness as to who uses your ID in the server).

I hope this all gets cleared up and look forward to some ggs.

Re: Mistaken Identity? Unban, please?
Salad, Wed Apr 21 2010, 08:38AM

Dr.Worm: Not a problemo :) I know that is annoying when someone hacks. No hard feelings, mate. Hopefully see you soon locked and loaded xD
cheers,

Re: Mistaken Identity? Unban, please?
FSK405|worm, Wed Apr 21 2010, 12:17PM

Cheers - your calm attitude throughout this has been appreciated.

Guildford aint that big though mate ;) jk

Re: Mistaken Identity? Unban, please?
Salad, Wed Apr 21 2010, 02:03PM

Well - lets say is dead average - hehehehe. Take care bud :D
J

Re: Mistaken Identity? Unban, please?
|$|Son, Wed Apr 21 2010, 02:12PM

To Son:
Thanks mate. Feeling is quite mutual xD You are a good man and an excellent fighter - always have enjoyed playing with or against you. On top of that you do have a good sense of humor :)
Keep it up, mate and take care

Salad

Salad, like i said to u the other day, i dont believe it was u, and u got in the middle of a banned IP range, as i played with u many times and we never had any issues to talk about u. But i have to keep in a neutral side, because this is a very big problem.
although i never liked salad i like pwning ya meat :=)
hope see u again soon and this is a mistake, but i really appreciate your maturity on this issue.
We are all here to have a good time and a break from our normal lives.

Re: Mistaken Identity? Unban, please?
DankRider, Wed Apr 21 2010, 03:56PM

In response to salad's defense.

Key notes from your testimony.
1 - You said you are an IT guy at the university. Is this correct?
2 - You said Fawky is a guy you work with that also play's UrT.
(based on the info I have I can Validate Fawky is a different urT player and is not Salad. Meaning this fawky guy does exist.)
3 - I can validate that IP 131.227.76.45 has only used the name Salad. With no other alias's.

Primary Issue:
- IP 131.227.4.149 was hacking on Thursday, 15/04/2010 (10:32). This IP had used the following alias's "Fawky (2x) - BanMe! (2x) - noobsy (1x) - Killer (0x) - China_Girl (0x) - Salad (0 x) - Terminator (0x)". It should be noted "Fawky" was the primary name or name used when the client first joined.

Statement:
- It is possible Fawky was the hacker/asshat that not only tried to impersonate you, Salad but BanMe! and China_Girl. Or possibly you have played on this computer once.

Home Work For Salad: In hopes or wrapping this case up.
- If you are an IT guy is it possible to track the origin of this IP 131.227.4.149 on said date and time?
- Do you have access to Fawky's computer? If so could you search his computer for a UrT hack?
(If possible: most hacks install a "secondary" Urban Terror launch icon used to launch UrT along with hack functionality. He may have simply tossed it into the trash bin after getting caught. You may also be able to look in his WEB history to see if he was web searching for a UrT hack. If you are unable to access his computer or locate a hack, maybe just ask him. - If he says yes, punch him in the face as hard as you can & kick him in the gut and spit on him. Then take a photo so we can post it with the caption "this is what happens when you get caught hacking".)
- If you feel Fawky is clean do you know of any student it may be? Im pressing this issue because if You and or fawky are not the hacker, then someone you know is using both your names in your location/next to you, while hacking. --> Find him/her and ship them to me in a little box.


Conclusion:
- If you can do the home work I would highly consider unbanning 131.227.76.45 as you have requested.
- As worm stated thanks for your calm professional manner in dealing with this situation.
- Im sure you can understand why we may be skeptical and reluctant to remove the ban with so many IPs from the same location. In past case's we have found asshats IP spoofing in hopes of avoiding detection and ban.

Re: Mistaken Identity? Unban, please?
Boogie Knight, Wed Apr 21 2010, 07:01PM

Salad info:

Player @ 86.153.100.151 has connected 115 times.
Comes on server and is pretty friendly (hi Longi, Hi boogie, Hi Junior) with the regulars.

Player @ 131.227.100.145 has connected 38 times and is friendly with the regulars (hi Cdaly, hi batty, hi son)

Looking at chat record, I can't tell the two apart. Not sure who's the bad guy and who's the good guy.

86.153.100.151 is a nearby town.

Re: Mistaken Identity? Unban, please?
Boogie Knight, Wed Apr 21 2010, 07:14PM

There is also a Fawky @ 131.227.76.45.
All Fawky's that I searched have no aliases?
He stated during one session (I think while chatting with smoker) "Really? Salad is here with me". So you too must be pretty close.
--------------------------------------------------------

I only searched Fawky on the old server and found no aliases or bans, or warns.

Re: Mistaken Identity? Unban, please?
Salad, Thu Apr 22 2010, 10:24AM

In response to salad's defense.

Key notes from your testimony.
1 - You said you are an IT guy at the university. Is this correct?
Re:1: Yes I am.
2 - You said Fawky is a guy you work with that also play's UrT.
(based on the info I have I can Validate Fawky is a different urT player and is not Salad. Meaning this fawky guy does exist.)
Re:2: That is correct again (as I said before :)).
3 - I can validate that IP 131.227.76.45 has only used the name Salad. With no other alias's.
Re:3: Yes, that’s correct. Thanks for confirming it on the forum.

Primary Issue:
IP 131.227.4.149 was hacking on Thursday, 15/04/2010 (10:32). This IP had used the following alias's "Fawky (2x) - BanMe! (2x) - noobsy (1x) - Killer (0x) - China_Girl (0x) - Salad (0 x) - Terminator (0x)". It should be noted "Fawky" was the primary name or name used when the client first joined.


Statement:
- It is possible Fawky was the hacker/asshat that not only tried to impersonate you, Salad but BanMe! and China_Girl. Or possibly you have played on this computer once.

Re: Statement:
I have never used this machine – now I know he did – look ‘Homework’ section.

Home Work For Salad: In hopes or wrapping this case up.
- If you are an IT guy is it possible to track the origin of this IP 131.227.4.149 on said date and time?
- Do you have access to Fawky's computer? If so could you search his computer for a UrT hack?
(If possible: most hacks install a "secondary" Urban Terror launch icon used to launch UrT along with hack functionality. He may have simply tossed it into the trash bin after getting caught. You may also be able to look in his WEB history to see if he was web searching for a UrT hack. If you are unable to access his computer or locate a hack, maybe just ask him. - If he says yes, punch him in the face as hard as you can & kick him in the gut and spit on him. Then take a photo so we can post it with the caption "this is what happens when you get caught hacking".) <--- Hehehehehehe! Looks like we have a similar approach to this kind of stuff xD

Re:’Homework’
Well,
I have had a conversation with Fawky and told him that offending IP looks like his machines’ IP in ATI (Advanced Technology Institute) and you guys caught him doing silly things on the server. I have showed him demo (‘Terminator_ipaddress_fsk405urbanterror41superman.dm_68’) that you posted on the forum. He said that it was him (no excuses as I had an IP and time of the offence) and he actually apologized for getting me into this sh*tty situation. As he is my work colleague I couldn’t really offend him (God only knows how much I wanted to….) as it wouldn’t go down well with my boss. I have informed him instead that I shall request you to ban his whole subnet from FSK405 (131.227.4.xxx) to get my ban lifted and my reputation back.

- If you feel Fawky is clean do you know of any student it may be? Im pressing this issue because if You and or fawky are not the hacker, then someone you know is using both your names in your location/next to you, while hacking. --> Find him/her and ship them to me in a little box.


Conclusion:
- If you can do the home work I would highly consider unbanning 131.227.76.45 as you have requested.
- As worm stated thanks for your calm professional manner in dealing with this situation.

Re: Cheers for that. I have been working in stressful environment for quite a long time (that’s why UrT is my main lunch time Stress Relieve Management tool) and one of the things that I have learned is that shouting, effing and chuffing doesn’t really help (quite opposite).

- Im sure you can understand why we may be skeptical and reluctant to remove the ban with so many IPs from the same location. In past case's we have found asshats IP spoofing in hopes of avoiding detection and ban.

Re: I can – Sometimes I have to track IPs of offending machines here (torrents, malvare, viruses, porn, etc).
Thanks for a civilized chat on this forum and I shall look forward to your final verdict. Regardless of the outcome, thank you for opportunity to lead my line of defence.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: Mistaken Identity? Unban, please?
Salad, Thu Apr 22 2010, 10:30AM

To Son:
Thanks mate. Feeling is quite mutual xD You are a good man and an excellent fighter - always have enjoyed playing with or against you. On top of that you do have a good sense of humor :)
Keep it up, mate and take care

Salad

Salad, like i said to u the other day, i dont believe it was u, and u got in the middle of a banned IP range, as i played with u many times and we never had any issues to talk about u. But i have to keep in a neutral side, because this is a very big problem.
although i never liked salad i like pwning ya meat :=)
hope see u again soon and this is a mistake, but i really appreciate your maturity on this issue.
We are all here to have a good time and a break from our normal lives.

|HH|Son

I do understand that you have to remain neutral. No worries, mate. Aha .. and I cannot wait to pay you back (hopefully) in LEAD on FSK Superman for 'pwning me meat' remarks xD

Re: Mistaken Identity? Unban, please?
Boogie Knight, Thu Apr 22 2010, 02:24PM

Also...Salad...the info that I posted was to try to help solve the issue. I was originally investigating Fawky and ran into several "Salads" all from the same area. I was not accusing. Something smelled is all.

So the other Salad that lives nearby must be your home computer?

Re: Mistaken Identity? Unban, please?
DankRider, Thu Apr 22 2010, 03:22PM


Case Notes:
- In retrospect, it was assumed Fawky and Salad were the same person given the geographical location. Fawky and Salad were both effected by the ban, though Fawky seems to have a dynamic IP enabling him to circumvent the ban, as Salad has a static IP. FSK405 is vigilant and will continue to add IP's of known hackers until their full sub-net is banned, as shown in this case.

- Salads Professional manner in dealing with situation has far exceeded my expectations and has earned a lot of trust and respect. Kudos to Salad.

As for Fawky:
- Fawky appeared to be a valued superman player until this incident.
- The unfortunate thing is he was caught and admitted to hacking. fawky has also used other player's alias's including his co-workers, in this case "Salad".
- He full on knew he was banned for hacking and the reason why his friend/co-worker salad was also banned and put on trial. Knowing why Salad was banned he wouldn't admit to anything until Salad confronted him with overwhelming evidence. I dont know how he is in real life but this should speak volumes about his personality.
- In FSK405's eye's Fawky will remain banned. This may be a delicate ban to deal with as there are several variables to deal with. Given that, Maybe Salad could have a man to man with him over a beer and help him to understand the consequences of his actions. (Fawky Should Pay The Tab)
- As Salad was inconvenienced with Fawky's actions I will allow him to "PM/ Private Message" me his thoughts on how to handle Fawky for the long run.

NOTE To All:
- This should be an example of how FSK405 tries to be fare when dealing with suspected hackers. Objectively, reviewing the facts. Salads level headed approach should be a model teaching others the right way to gain our attention and respect. I have no doubt he has been honest and forth coming with his side of the story, and again appreciate the professionalism.

Re: Mistaken Identity? Unban, please?
|$|Son, Thu Apr 22 2010, 04:02PM

Just a final thought:

I´m waiting for your meat Salad :) and slap fawky for me :P
wellcome back mate :=)

Re: Mistaken Identity? Unban, please?
buzzkill009, Thu Apr 22 2010, 04:49PM

Just a quick question based on the last line

Live Long and Prosper!"

Aren't all Vulcans banned by default? Or did we change this when we allowed the Canadians to play? :)

Re: Mistaken Identity? Unban, please?
Littlefoot, Thu Apr 22 2010, 05:50PM

Just a quick question based on the last line

Live Long and Prosper!"

Aren't all Vulcans banned by default? Or did we change this when we allowed the Canadians to play? :)

buzzkill009

ROFL!!! Do you walk to school or carry your lunch?

Re: Mistaken Identity? Unban, please?
Frog, Thu Apr 22 2010, 11:02PM

First Superman thread that I have enjoyed reading in years....

Okay, moving to the Superman Bucket.

Re: Mistaken Identity? Unban, please?
Salad, Fri Apr 23 2010, 02:01AM

AWESOME !!!!!!
Many thanks DankRider - I am very happy that I can play again. Well done sir. With regards to level headed approach, etc. you are not too bad yourself :) Your messages were clear and accurate and I could blatantly see that you sacrificed your private time to come up with facts and facts only. Respect, frankly. I shall PM you either today or tomorrow about Fawky. It was well worth having this conversation as I have had my name cleared and I can appear on FSK again to play, play, play, play and to play some more. I love this game and map.
Re:Buzzkill009: HAHAHAHAHA !!!! I am not Vulcan (just quarter) nor English. I am Polihs guy living in UK.
Re:Son: Cheers, mate. Now I will be able to Inspect Your Gadget on-line again - Take Care

Re: Mistaken Identity? Unban, please?
FSK405|worm, Fri Apr 23 2010, 03:32AM

Really glad this is sorted! Being in your situation cannot have been easy Salad, and it's great that the hacker remains banned and the genuine, friendly player is able to continue to beat the hell out of red and blue guys to stop himself from trashing the uni's it suite ;D

On a personal level, the fact that I was one of the admins that recommended throwing the ban hammer down on your head makes me especially glad that this is resolved in the best possible manner.

As a side note, there aren't *that* many players in the UK, and it saddens me that often those who do join the community just make an ass out of themselves (remember footyscape?). Would figure therefore that you're actually Polish!

I'll eat bigos tonight in your honour salad! Mmmmm pork and fermented cabbage. Bigos yourself up my man! Looking forward to some ggs.

Re: Mistaken Identity? Unban, please?
Salad, Fri Apr 23 2010, 05:36AM

Really glad this is sorted! Being in your situation cannot have been easy Salad, and it's great that the hacker remains banned and the genuine, friendly player is able to continue to beat the hell out of red and blue guys to stop himself from trashing the uni's it suite ;D

On a personal level, the fact that I was one of the admins that recommended throwing the ban hammer down on your head makes me especially glad that this is resolved in the best possible manner.

As a side note, there aren't *that* many players in the UK, and it saddens me that often those who do join the community just make an ass out of themselves (remember footyscape?). Would figure therefore that you're actually Polish!

I'll eat bigos tonight in your honour salad! Mmmmm pork and fermented cabbage. Bigos yourself up my man! Looking forward to some ggs.

dr.worm

Cheers, Dr.Worm, Looking forward to many ggs too :) Bigos actually rules! I love it! See you on the battlefield, mate xD

Re: Mistaken Identity? Unban, please?
Salad, Fri Apr 23 2010, 05:46AM

Also...Salad...the info that I posted was to try to help solve the issue. I was originally investigating Fawky and ran into several "Salads" all from the same area. I was not accusing. Something smelled is all.

So the other Salad that lives nearby must be your home computer?

Boogie Knight

The other IP is me home one. I play from home in the evenings. I know that you weren't accusing but trying to pin the hacker down. Cheers and see you on-line. Take care, mate :)