Superman PRE-Release info!
wily duck, Tue May 26 2009, 02:52PMWe had an awesome private pre-release party. Monday's public pre-release went very well. Dankrider and Mindriot commandeered a new B3/server config and made sure you guys could play the map with the best server performance available. No problems were been found that marred the public introduction. I'm getting great comments and compliments that really quantify the amount of effort I've put into the map.
This is the public pre-release. Anyone is free to play the map in whatever means they want. The map will become obsolete once the final release is done.
I had taken a step back, due to numerous people's help when I was under the gun of time, postponing RELEASE and instead delivering a public PRE-Release. Probably the best move I could have made. Previously stated, this version was supposed to have a lifetime of one week, with the release coming out next weekend. Further level-minded thinking post-pre-release (ha!) says that two weeks will be a reasonable and sain amount of time to complete the final updates, include the necessary documentation, make sure all of everything is in the best order.
So - the ETA on the final release is currently in two weeks (weekend of the 6th). This is not a hard date. I may push the date back further if necessary.
Anyone want to post screenies from the private pre-release party? I've got some of my own as well. Please keep them 800x600 or so if possible to avoid forum rendering wackiness!
Post comments on the map here. If you find issues, I need to know asap. Map changes or related suggestions will be heard, but I will not be modifying anything in the map unless critically necessary (beyond anything I have already planned myself).
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
wily duck, Tue May 26 2009, 03:36PM
Issues to address:
- Wall of Immortality requires inscribing.
- Ground at WoI to be completed.
- Jump from hotel to WoI to be perfected.
- Complete readme.txt
- Superman FAQ.
- Missing polys at Frog's Fountain.
- Blue spawn move at main street.
- Carport fix.
Non-issues that stand as-is:
- Upward wind drafts in military elevator.
wily duck, Tue May 26 2009, 03:36PM
Issues to address:
- Wall of Immortality requires inscribing.
- Ground at WoI to be completed.
- Jump from hotel to WoI to be perfected.
- Complete readme.txt
- Superman FAQ.
- Missing polys at Frog's Fountain.
- Blue spawn move at main street.
- Carport fix.
Non-issues that stand as-is:
- Upward wind drafts in military elevator.
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
wily duck, Tue May 26 2009, 03:59PM
Comments for new players:
ut4_superman is not Casa. It is not a jump map. Unlike traditional UrT maps, you are required to look both up AND down, and eventually become proficient in maintaining a vertical awareness just as much as the standard horizontal awareness.
Flypoint arrows MUST be jumped in to. You will blindly walk over an edge if you do not cognitively make the effort to jump to your destination. Intentionally flying/jumping large distances is a core design point of this map. This is not a quake3 map, these are not jumppads.
Land on stuff. Large objects on the ground can generally be landed on. Cars, bus stops, the large black arch supports, impending doom's bushes, many many others.
Hold jump when landing on something that incurs an angle. Examples are a car's windshield, arches, etc.
Slide using crouch when boosted across the ground to gain greater distance.
Strafe to change your destination (flying, falling, or sliding). Requires additional foresight as to where to land if midair.
Look around in midair when flying. If you let the arrow boost you to it's default destination, you will almost always find yourself landing in a safe location.
Emergency swan-dives and leaps-of-faith are common. Many times it's easier to correct your path mid-air than planning it.
wily duck, Tue May 26 2009, 03:59PM
Comments for new players:
ut4_superman is not Casa. It is not a jump map. Unlike traditional UrT maps, you are required to look both up AND down, and eventually become proficient in maintaining a vertical awareness just as much as the standard horizontal awareness.
Flypoint arrows MUST be jumped in to. You will blindly walk over an edge if you do not cognitively make the effort to jump to your destination. Intentionally flying/jumping large distances is a core design point of this map. This is not a quake3 map, these are not jumppads.
Land on stuff. Large objects on the ground can generally be landed on. Cars, bus stops, the large black arch supports, impending doom's bushes, many many others.
Hold jump when landing on something that incurs an angle. Examples are a car's windshield, arches, etc.
Slide using crouch when boosted across the ground to gain greater distance.
Strafe to change your destination (flying, falling, or sliding). Requires additional foresight as to where to land if midair.
Look around in midair when flying. If you let the arrow boost you to it's default destination, you will almost always find yourself landing in a safe location.
Emergency swan-dives and leaps-of-faith are common. Many times it's easier to correct your path mid-air than planning it.
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
mindriot, Tue May 26 2009, 04:39PM
that anomaly at the car port with the patches is still there.
mindriot, Tue May 26 2009, 04:39PM
that anomaly at the car port with the patches is still there.
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
Squrl, Tue May 26 2009, 04:55PM
Wily the map is fuckin awesome thanks again for a doin a wonderful job man. Anyone know when the uh videos of us killin brad pitt are going to be up? I think Slideways has them
Squrl, Tue May 26 2009, 04:55PM
Wily the map is fuckin awesome thanks again for a doin a wonderful job man. Anyone know when the uh videos of us killin brad pitt are going to be up? I think Slideways has them
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
BatMann, Tue May 26 2009, 06:00PM
the map wily made and dank host is the coolest in the series good work wiley and dank thank you .too bad asshats are still there.
BatMann, Tue May 26 2009, 06:00PM
the map wily made and dank host is the coolest in the series good work wiley and dank thank you .too bad asshats are still there.
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
Boogie Knight, Tue May 26 2009, 09:30PM
Hey wily, we experienced a problem, I think it was during the map restart at the beginning of a new game. I couldn't move and was slowly drifting on the map when I spawned. The demo doesn't show it but I was actually lying on my side (at least from my view). I could move my mouse to look left and right and up and down but my arrow keys wouldn't move me at all. You can see in the demo that others were affected the same way.
]1243391449_996_FT24273_demo0019.zip[/file]
Boogie Knight, Tue May 26 2009, 09:30PM
Hey wily, we experienced a problem, I think it was during the map restart at the beginning of a new game. I couldn't move and was slowly drifting on the map when I spawned. The demo doesn't show it but I was actually lying on my side (at least from my view). I could move my mouse to look left and right and up and down but my arrow keys wouldn't move me at all. You can see in the demo that others were affected the same way.
]1243391449_996_FT24273_demo0019.zip[/file]
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
deleted-user, Tue May 26 2009, 10:15PM
GoodByeBradPitt: We all blow Pitt away. WhiteysPayback: WhiteDog was always the joker during the testing. This is where we got even. WrongEnd: "One last smoke before you go?"
]1243394082_1431_FT24273_pre-release_party.zip[/file]
deleted-user, Tue May 26 2009, 10:15PM
GoodByeBradPitt: We all blow Pitt away. WhiteysPayback: WhiteDog was always the joker during the testing. This is where we got even. WrongEnd: "One last smoke before you go?"
]1243394082_1431_FT24273_pre-release_party.zip[/file]
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
Slideways, Wed May 27 2009, 04:58AM
hey Wily heres the mass suicide make sure u click HD and full screen
Slideways, Wed May 27 2009, 04:58AM
hey Wily heres the mass suicide make sure u click HD and full screen
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
CDaly, Wed May 27 2009, 07:28AM
Any hint on the new newspaper headline that will be in the release? :)
Congrats Wily on the pre-release and thank you for all your effort.
CDaly, Wed May 27 2009, 07:28AM
Any hint on the new newspaper headline that will be in the release? :)
Congrats Wily on the pre-release and thank you for all your effort.
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
wily duck, Wed May 27 2009, 11:24AM
The newspaper will be themed to the map, as was the previous paper. Don't expect a pattern of politics though.
wily duck, Wed May 27 2009, 11:24AM
The newspaper will be themed to the map, as was the previous paper. Don't expect a pattern of politics though.
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
wily duck, Thu May 28 2009, 05:48PM
It is improved, but I'll see if I can't patch it over completely.
wily duck, Thu May 28 2009, 05:48PM
mindriot
that anomaly at the car port with the patches is still there.
It is improved, but I'll see if I can't patch it over completely.
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
|$|TheDamager, Fri May 29 2009, 04:25AM
Not sure if you can do anything about this Wily, but when i was playing the pre-release just before, i got stuck on the ladder from the new billboard. Had to /kill to get out.
Also, might just be my computer, but occasionally when i die the weapons 'rattle' on the ground and make an awful noise.
|$|TheDamager, Fri May 29 2009, 04:25AM
Not sure if you can do anything about this Wily, but when i was playing the pre-release just before, i got stuck on the ladder from the new billboard. Had to /kill to get out.
Also, might just be my computer, but occasionally when i die the weapons 'rattle' on the ground and make an awful noise.
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
CDaly, Fri May 29 2009, 09:52AM
I've noticed rattling weapons when dying on other maps, probably a UT thing.
CDaly, Fri May 29 2009, 09:52AM
I've noticed rattling weapons when dying on other maps, probably a UT thing.
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
deleted-user, Fri May 29 2009, 02:05PM
I've noticed it here and on other maps, as well. But there are spots near the ground of red building that weapons rattle a lot more than on any other maps. It's a peculiar thing, and I've no idea how to reproduce it at the moment.
deleted-user, Fri May 29 2009, 02:05PM
I've noticed it here and on other maps, as well. But there are spots near the ground of red building that weapons rattle a lot more than on any other maps. It's a peculiar thing, and I've no idea how to reproduce it at the moment.
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
wily duck, Fri May 29 2009, 05:23PM
That's a urt/quake3 issue. Happens when an entity isn't flat to a solid surface, like hanging over an edge or by an angled surface, etc. Nothing I can do anything about.
Stuck on the ladder? That shouldn't happen, but can. Not much more I can do there either.
Sometimes these built-in issues with the engine can be worked around, or helper brushes can smooth over the issue, or another technique can help avoid the issue. I use those whenever possible, but they do require some creative thinking and application to make the problem go away.
The carport issue has been fixed entirely - another example of creative issue handling. Had to build an arced shape of playerclip brushes, bend the edges down around the curve, then evenly align the brush heights down the driveway. This prevents the inadvertent incorrect patch-curve height calculation the engine is apparently doing. Basically I made an invisible stair that prevents the player from coming in contact with the curved driveway curb.
What else have you guys found that I can patch up quick?
wily duck, Fri May 29 2009, 05:23PM
That's a urt/quake3 issue. Happens when an entity isn't flat to a solid surface, like hanging over an edge or by an angled surface, etc. Nothing I can do anything about.
Stuck on the ladder? That shouldn't happen, but can. Not much more I can do there either.
Sometimes these built-in issues with the engine can be worked around, or helper brushes can smooth over the issue, or another technique can help avoid the issue. I use those whenever possible, but they do require some creative thinking and application to make the problem go away.
The carport issue has been fixed entirely - another example of creative issue handling. Had to build an arced shape of playerclip brushes, bend the edges down around the curve, then evenly align the brush heights down the driveway. This prevents the inadvertent incorrect patch-curve height calculation the engine is apparently doing. Basically I made an invisible stair that prevents the player from coming in contact with the curved driveway curb.
What else have you guys found that I can patch up quick?
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
|$|TheDamager, Sat May 30 2009, 11:09PM
A couple of other problems, nothing too major: I got stuck climbing up the traffic lights next to the blue spawn under the highway. I spotted these white lines under the garage, barely noticable but i thought you might want to know.
Also, one time when i jumped off red down to the billboard, i was boosted on untill i hit the edge of the map by the river, havent been able to do it again.
|$|TheDamager, Sat May 30 2009, 11:09PM
A couple of other problems, nothing too major: I got stuck climbing up the traffic lights next to the blue spawn under the highway. I spotted these white lines under the garage, barely noticable but i thought you might want to know.
Also, one time when i jumped off red down to the billboard, i was boosted on untill i hit the edge of the map by the river, havent been able to do it again.
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
$|SantaClauzzze, Sun May 31 2009, 08:18AM
I've done that last thing, the edge of the map thing many times i think its becuz u either held crouch or are using the crouch and cover bind and forgot to unlock your crouch.
$|SantaClauzzze, Sun May 31 2009, 08:18AM
I've done that last thing, the edge of the map thing many times i think its becuz u either held crouch or are using the crouch and cover bind and forgot to unlock your crouch.
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
FSK405B, Sun May 31 2009, 03:10PM
When I'm landing on the billboard metal mesh after falling from military, if I don't hit it exactly in the center, I fly off in another direction, sometimes all the way across the map. Obviously I should just land exactly in the center, but even lemminging would be better than flying all the way across the map.
FSK405B, Sun May 31 2009, 03:10PM
When I'm landing on the billboard metal mesh after falling from military, if I don't hit it exactly in the center, I fly off in another direction, sometimes all the way across the map. Obviously I should just land exactly in the center, but even lemminging would be better than flying all the way across the map.
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
$|SantaClauzzze, Sun May 31 2009, 04:55PM
are you using the crouch and cover bind (where you stay in ccrouch until you hit crouch again)? Becuz that would explain this.
$|SantaClauzzze, Sun May 31 2009, 04:55PM
are you using the crouch and cover bind (where you stay in ccrouch until you hit crouch again)? Becuz that would explain this.
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
|$|TheDamager, Sun May 31 2009, 06:44PM
I was holding crouch when i did it the first time, but everytime i try to repeat it, i just land normally, kinda annoying me now seing i was able to go from red roof to the far end of the river in one jump. I have tried it with the bind and just holding crouch
|$|TheDamager, Sun May 31 2009, 06:44PM
I was holding crouch when i did it the first time, but everytime i try to repeat it, i just land normally, kinda annoying me now seing i was able to go from red roof to the far end of the river in one jump. I have tried it with the bind and just holding crouch
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
momo, Sun May 31 2009, 07:18PM
If you kill a flag carrier standing right against the base of the waterfall the flag will go inside the rock base and is un-returnable.
momo, Sun May 31 2009, 07:18PM
If you kill a flag carrier standing right against the base of the waterfall the flag will go inside the rock base and is un-returnable.
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
wily duck, Sun May 31 2009, 08:36PM
Great observation momo. I've nodropped the internals of the pond pedestals and pillars due to this. Thanks!
wily duck, Sun May 31 2009, 08:36PM
Great observation momo. I've nodropped the internals of the pond pedestals and pillars due to this. Thanks!
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
wily duck, Sun May 31 2009, 08:40PM
wily duck, Sun May 31 2009, 08:40PM
Trying a fix against the pole ladders, should help. The lights are "light bleeding" which I'm not worrying about at the moment. Thanks!A couple of other problems, nothing too major: I got stuck climbing up the traffic lights next to the blue spawn under the highway. I spotted these white lines under the garage, barely noticable but i thought you might want to know.
Also, one time when i jumped off red down to the billboard, i was boosted on untill i hit the edge of the map by the river, havent been able to do it again. TheDamager
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
wily duck, Mon Jun 01 2009, 06:23PM
Progress update. Applying a heavy coat of polish over the map. Tightening up a number of very minor issues. The new jump from hotel at Irwin towards the WoI has finally been perfected - you can hop off the arch and sorta grind over the wall. Breaking up radio locations into more detailed areas. Some texture updates. Hunting down any and all unseen uncaulked faces. Working on vis improvements thanks to $Null. Other stuff. etc etc
Thus far the pre-release has held well in pub play!Only a couple very minor issues found (and fixed).
wily duck, Mon Jun 01 2009, 06:23PM
Progress update. Applying a heavy coat of polish over the map. Tightening up a number of very minor issues. The new jump from hotel at Irwin towards the WoI has finally been perfected - you can hop off the arch and sorta grind over the wall. Breaking up radio locations into more detailed areas. Some texture updates. Hunting down any and all unseen uncaulked faces. Working on vis improvements thanks to $Null. Other stuff. etc etc
Thus far the pre-release has held well in pub play!Only a couple very minor issues found (and fixed).
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
mindriot, Mon Jun 01 2009, 08:37PM
remember... only 64 radio locations are allowed. otherwise it fails to load in game with some cryptic error. :)
mindriot, Mon Jun 01 2009, 08:37PM
remember... only 64 radio locations are allowed. otherwise it fails to load in game with some cryptic error. :)
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
Deviant-x, Tue Jun 02 2009, 02:21PM
1 more bug at least, i checked and it's not on beta4 though so its fixable at least. stand in the opening of the elevator where the doors meet at the top of the elevator shaft in the red building, the doors compltely dissapear, also works in the blue building for the stairs down from the roof.
Deviant-x, Tue Jun 02 2009, 02:21PM
1 more bug at least, i checked and it's not on beta4 though so its fixable at least. stand in the opening of the elevator where the doors meet at the top of the elevator shaft in the red building, the doors compltely dissapear, also works in the blue building for the stairs down from the roof.
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
Deviant-x, Tue Jun 02 2009, 02:24PM
oh yeah, frost spec'ed me on this as conformation
Deviant-x, Tue Jun 02 2009, 02:24PM
oh yeah, frost spec'ed me on this as conformation
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
wily duck, Tue Jun 02 2009, 04:01PM
Really..? Where'd you find this out? Now I'm even more interested at the possibility of acquiring a limitations list.
wily duck, Tue Jun 02 2009, 04:01PM
mindriot
remember... only 64 radio locations are allowed. otherwise it fails to load in game with some cryptic error. :)
Really..? Where'd you find this out? Now I'm even more interested at the possibility of acquiring a limitations list.
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
wily duck, Tue Jun 02 2009, 04:09PM
That's due to the 1 unit thick areaportal brush. It blocks vis. Basically, imagine it as a engine rendering divider or seal - nothing exists (visually) on the other side of it when the doors are closed. It deactivates when the doors open. If the brush doesn't touch all edges, the vis area does not seal and fps pours through. Messy.
Unfortunately I do not know how to split vis at zero units in thickness. The visual anomaly you see only affects yourself, causing all entities to vanish. Make no mistake though, just cause you close your eyes doesn't mean everyone else can't see you... ;)
The reason you didn't see that in b4 is because I implemented the brush incorrectly, rendering it useless, eating fps in the process (since useless polys are being drawn).
Basically, until I'm able to find a better method, just ignore it. :)
wily duck, Tue Jun 02 2009, 04:09PM
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UnReal[Deviant
1 more bug at least, i checked and it's not on beta4 though so its fixable at least. stand in the opening of the elevator where the doors meet at the top of the elevator shaft in the red building, the doors compltely dissapear, also works in the blue building for the stairs down from the roof.
That's due to the 1 unit thick areaportal brush. It blocks vis. Basically, imagine it as a engine rendering divider or seal - nothing exists (visually) on the other side of it when the doors are closed. It deactivates when the doors open. If the brush doesn't touch all edges, the vis area does not seal and fps pours through. Messy.
Unfortunately I do not know how to split vis at zero units in thickness. The visual anomaly you see only affects yourself, causing all entities to vanish. Make no mistake though, just cause you close your eyes doesn't mean everyone else can't see you... ;)
The reason you didn't see that in b4 is because I implemented the brush incorrectly, rendering it useless, eating fps in the process (since useless polys are being drawn).
Basically, until I'm able to find a better method, just ignore it. :)
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
$|SantaClauzzze, Tue Jun 02 2009, 04:28PM
$|SantaClauzzze, Tue Jun 02 2009, 04:28PM
This also happens i in the construction site on a "pillar" (I don't know what to call it). Pictures attached show the spot -SantaIf you kill a flag carrier standing right against the base of the waterfall the flag will go inside the rock base and is un-returnable.
momo
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
wily duck, Tue Jun 02 2009, 08:24PM
I've nodropped damn near everything I could find or think of in the current version, so this shouldn't happen anymore. Testing will continue!
wily duck, Tue Jun 02 2009, 08:24PM
I've nodropped damn near everything I could find or think of in the current version, so this shouldn't happen anymore. Testing will continue!
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
wily duck, Tue Jun 02 2009, 09:15PM
Well spork a duck. Determination and necessity, right? Figured it out! A brush with areaportal on one face, skip on the other 5 faces. Weird disappearing bug fixed!!!!!
wily duck, Tue Jun 02 2009, 09:15PM
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UnReal[Deviant
1 more bug at least, i checked and it's not on beta4 though so its fixable at least. stand in the opening of the elevator where the doors meet at the top of the elevator shaft in the red building, the doors compltely dissapear, also works in the blue building for the stairs down from the roof.
That's due to the 1 unit thick areaportal brush. It blocks vis. Basically, imagine it as a engine rendering divider or seal - nothing exists (visually) on the other side of it when the doors are closed. It deactivates when the doors open. If the brush doesn't touch all edges, the vis area does not seal and fps pours through. Messy.
Unfortunately I do not know how to split vis at zero units in thickness. The visual anomaly you see only affects yourself, causing all entities to vanish. Make no mistake though, just cause you close your eyes doesn't mean everyone else can't see you... ;)
The reason you didn't see that in b4 is because I implemented the brush incorrectly, rendering it useless, eating fps in the process (since useless polys are being drawn).
Basically, until I'm able to find a better method, just ignore it. :)
wily duck
Well spork a duck. Determination and necessity, right? Figured it out! A brush with areaportal on one face, skip on the other 5 faces. Weird disappearing bug fixed!!!!!
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
wily duck, Wed Jun 03 2009, 05:15PM
Quick story. Couldn't sleep last night. Got up, still plenty dark. Grabbed a Wired magazine, looking for a specific article/image. Headed to the computer, looked through the map, figuring out what to work on. I'd noted a particular section of the grass I liked. A while later, all grass at the hotel had been cleaned up. The curve patch replaced with brushes, now able to sustain the fancy grass.
Jumped in the shower while a compile burned away, thinking "who in their right mind 'optimizes grass' when they can't sleep?". lol!
Oh and I was hating on the big blank useless paved SW corner. Now it at least appears occupied.
wily duck, Wed Jun 03 2009, 05:15PM
Quick story. Couldn't sleep last night. Got up, still plenty dark. Grabbed a Wired magazine, looking for a specific article/image. Headed to the computer, looked through the map, figuring out what to work on. I'd noted a particular section of the grass I liked. A while later, all grass at the hotel had been cleaned up. The curve patch replaced with brushes, now able to sustain the fancy grass.
Jumped in the shower while a compile burned away, thinking "who in their right mind 'optimizes grass' when they can't sleep?". lol!
Oh and I was hating on the big blank useless paved SW corner. Now it at least appears occupied.
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
Gladi8r, Wed Jun 03 2009, 06:56PM
I have a friend who optimizes grass when he can't sleep.... oh, you meant mapping.. sry.. ;)
Gladi8r, Wed Jun 03 2009, 06:56PM
I have a friend who optimizes grass when he can't sleep.... oh, you meant mapping.. sry.. ;)
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
Littlefoot, Thu Jun 04 2009, 06:20AM
ROFL
Littlefoot, Thu Jun 04 2009, 06:20AM
Gladi8r
I have a friend who optimizes grass when he can't sleep.... oh, you meant mapping.. sry.. ;)
ROFL
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
|$|TheDamager, Thu Jun 04 2009, 11:27PM
Not sure if this is intentional or not, i have lemminged a couple of times on the jump from doom to Military HQ; I hit the grey edge of the jump tower and instead of being boosted up i die.
|$|TheDamager, Thu Jun 04 2009, 11:27PM
Not sure if this is intentional or not, i have lemminged a couple of times on the jump from doom to Military HQ; I hit the grey edge of the jump tower and instead of being boosted up i die.
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
CDaly, Fri Jun 05 2009, 11:53AM
After playing in the public more I am finding I and others ofter going the same routes and not spreading out quite as much around the map as I think you intended. Sure there is definitely some spreading, especially when hiding with the flag. Having vent to throw nades into room on blue roof also encourages people to find other spots to hide. Less camping on garage behind truck as before.
How about another spawn point or two for both sides? Lower ponds, construction site, park, billboard and other out of the way places but close to arrow boost locations. I don't know if you can affect the probability of a given spawn point but if you are reluctant to have out of way spawns you can do so less frequently.
In bomb mode I think some blue should show up in or on their base instead of the two construction sites. Red can drop in and kill off a couple and create mayhem a little too easily.
Just a thought.
CDaly, Fri Jun 05 2009, 11:53AM
After playing in the public more I am finding I and others ofter going the same routes and not spreading out quite as much around the map as I think you intended. Sure there is definitely some spreading, especially when hiding with the flag. Having vent to throw nades into room on blue roof also encourages people to find other spots to hide. Less camping on garage behind truck as before.
How about another spawn point or two for both sides? Lower ponds, construction site, park, billboard and other out of the way places but close to arrow boost locations. I don't know if you can affect the probability of a given spawn point but if you are reluctant to have out of way spawns you can do so less frequently.
In bomb mode I think some blue should show up in or on their base instead of the two construction sites. Red can drop in and kill off a couple and create mayhem a little too easily.
Just a thought.
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
poohster, Sat Jun 06 2009, 05:55PM
ever consider putting funstuff in the map, Say, superman hair for helmet?
poohster, Sat Jun 06 2009, 05:55PM
ever consider putting funstuff in the map, Say, superman hair for helmet?
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
Littlefoot, Sat Jun 06 2009, 06:45PM
Or a cape? That would be soooo cooool...cape only available for high ranking admins and FSK405!!!!
Littlefoot, Sat Jun 06 2009, 06:45PM
Or a cape? That would be soooo cooool...cape only available for high ranking admins and FSK405!!!!
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
Boogie Knight, Sat Jun 06 2009, 07:38PM
One of the funstuf guys has a cape.
Boogie Knight, Sat Jun 06 2009, 07:38PM
One of the funstuf guys has a cape.
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
|$|Son, Sun Jun 07 2009, 05:48AM
or put lex luthor in a leather clothe and a wipe, to pwn asshats :D
|$|Son, Sun Jun 07 2009, 05:48AM
or put lex luthor in a leather clothe and a wipe, to pwn asshats :D
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
$|SantaClauzzze, Sun Jun 07 2009, 06:03AM
-Santa
$|SantaClauzzze, Sun Jun 07 2009, 06:03AM
You can already get a red/black cape. Just go to ut4_guerilla it'll install the cape funstuff pack. I'll consider telling you and all the admins the fun stuff code (note. brining me into the clan wouldn't be such a bad idea if you want to know)Littlefoot
Or a cape? That would be soooo cooool...cape only available for high ranking admins and FSK405!!!! (and Santa Clauzzze)
-Santa
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
Gladi8r, Sun Jun 07 2009, 10:48AM
Extortion? Video Game extortion.........? Really...? Hmmmmm....
No milk and cookies for you this year, asshat.
Gladi8r, Sun Jun 07 2009, 10:48AM
Extortion? Video Game extortion.........? Really...? Hmmmmm....
No milk and cookies for you this year, asshat.
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Boogie Knight, Sun Jun 07 2009, 12:40PM
If you deposit $50 into my PayPal account I will tell you the inside secret for making your character either male or female.
Boogie Knight, Sun Jun 07 2009, 12:40PM
If you deposit $50 into my PayPal account I will tell you the inside secret for making your character either male or female.
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mindriot, Sun Jun 07 2009, 12:44PM
wily, at the start of a CTF round, a blue player spawned in the red security room.
mindriot, Sun Jun 07 2009, 12:44PM
wily, at the start of a CTF round, a blue player spawned in the red security room.
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$|SantaClauzzze, Sun Jun 07 2009, 12:55PM
lol its not extortion if you like it
wait no thats rape
$|SantaClauzzze, Sun Jun 07 2009, 12:55PM
lol its not extortion if you like it
wait no thats rape
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$|SantaClauzzze, Sun Jun 07 2009, 12:57PM
$|SantaClauzzze, Sun Jun 07 2009, 12:57PM
That happens alot sometimes i'll spawn on top of the red roof (i'm blue) and sometimes reds even spawn on the road. It's kinda bizzare though it is helpfulmindriot
wily, at the start of a CTF round, a blue player spawned in the red security room.
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|$|Son, Sun Jun 07 2009, 03:21PM
today somehow i landed on the waterfall from heli tower, bounced in a litle edge/wall and survived.
and landed in top of bus stop to with no damages, near the doom entrance
|$|Son, Sun Jun 07 2009, 03:21PM
today somehow i landed on the waterfall from heli tower, bounced in a litle edge/wall and survived.
and landed in top of bus stop to with no damages, near the doom entrance
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Boogie Knight, Sun Jun 07 2009, 05:41PM
I have never lemminged on that bus stop since new release.
Boogie Knight, Sun Jun 07 2009, 05:41PM
I have never lemminged on that bus stop since new release.
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wily duck, Sun Jun 07 2009, 11:05PM
On the contrary. I expect the same routes to usually be taken. Most people have been running the same routes since the early betas. Difference is - the advanced players know how to handle themselves through the less used routes, turning them to their advantage. That's one of the great things about this map - you have lots of options at your disposal, or just take the generic path.
Not this round.
The bomb mode theme and map layout necessitates the positions of the spawns. We put a lot of thought into this, including testing, was not easy to find good positioning.
wily duck, Sun Jun 07 2009, 11:05PM
CDaly
After playing in the public more I am finding I and others ofter going the same routes and not spreading out quite as much around the map as I think you intended. Sure there is definitely some spreading, especially when hiding with the flag. Having vent to throw nades into room on blue roof also encourages people to find other spots to hide. Less camping on garage behind truck as before.
On the contrary. I expect the same routes to usually be taken. Most people have been running the same routes since the early betas. Difference is - the advanced players know how to handle themselves through the less used routes, turning them to their advantage. That's one of the great things about this map - you have lots of options at your disposal, or just take the generic path.
CDaly
How about another spawn point or two for both sides? Lower ponds, construction site, park, billboard and other out of the way places but close to arrow boost locations. I don't know if you can affect the probability of a given spawn point but if you are reluctant to have out of way spawns you can do so less frequently.
Not this round.
CDaly
In bomb mode I think some blue should show up in or on their base instead of the two construction sites. Red can drop in and kill off a couple and create mayhem a little too easily.
The bomb mode theme and map layout necessitates the positions of the spawns. We put a lot of thought into this, including testing, was not easy to find good positioning.
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wily duck, Sun Jun 07 2009, 11:08PM
Will investigate, thanks Mindriot.
Sounds like a landing anomaly like a spinjump. Unless you think this is really a problem, I wouldn't worry about it.
wily duck, Sun Jun 07 2009, 11:08PM
mindriot
wily, at the start of a CTF round, a blue player spawned in the red security room.
Will investigate, thanks Mindriot.
|HH|Son
today somehow i landed on the waterfall from heli tower, bounced in a litle edge/wall and survived.
and landed in top of bus stop to with no damages, near the doom entrance
Sounds like a landing anomaly like a spinjump. Unless you think this is really a problem, I wouldn't worry about it.
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FSK405|worm, Mon Jun 08 2009, 12:38AM
sorry if someone else has posted this further up, I don't have time to catch up on the thread.
The locations reported by radio are sometimes wrong. I've noticed "Hotel Roof" when I've been in Hotel Maintenance, and "Executive Room" when I've been on the new highway billboard.
the blue player spawning in red security room is not uncommon btw, happened to me yesterday too.
FSK405|worm, Mon Jun 08 2009, 12:38AM
sorry if someone else has posted this further up, I don't have time to catch up on the thread.
The locations reported by radio are sometimes wrong. I've noticed "Hotel Roof" when I've been in Hotel Maintenance, and "Executive Room" when I've been on the new highway billboard.
the blue player spawning in red security room is not uncommon btw, happened to me yesterday too.
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poohster, Mon Jun 08 2009, 01:28AM
duplicate of 6-2 waterfall flag post
poohster, Mon Jun 08 2009, 01:28AM
duplicate of 6-2 waterfall flag post
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|$|Son, Mon Jun 08 2009, 06:47AM
i´ve noticed the problem that dad reported to, sometimes when i´m in blue and i hear someone requesting medic in blue base it shows the tag Hotel roof, but the guy/ladie is in hotel maintenance.
aboute the bus stop and waterfall i dont see it as a problem, its good help though, only reported to u guys get the information
|$|Son, Mon Jun 08 2009, 06:47AM
i´ve noticed the problem that dad reported to, sometimes when i´m in blue and i hear someone requesting medic in blue base it shows the tag Hotel roof, but the guy/ladie is in hotel maintenance.
aboute the bus stop and waterfall i dont see it as a problem, its good help though, only reported to u guys get the information
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Fokker, Tue Jun 09 2009, 12:34AM
Fokker, Tue Jun 09 2009, 12:34AM
-****You can land at base of waterfalls on the angled pedestals.|HH|Son
today somehow i landed on the waterfall from heli tower, bounced in a little edge/wall and survived.
|HH|Son
and landed in top of bus stop to with no damages, near the doom entrance
-****Bus stops are now soft
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|$|Son, Tue Jun 09 2009, 02:27AM
this is some secrets that i getting to know now, but i can say its a awseome map really, some crazy combo jumps(news), congratulations u all.
i´ll try to get know better the map and try help u to develop that.
|$|Son, Tue Jun 09 2009, 02:27AM
this is some secrets that i getting to know now, but i can say its a awseome map really, some crazy combo jumps(news), congratulations u all.
i´ll try to get know better the map and try help u to develop that.
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
wily duck, Tue Jun 09 2009, 10:00PM
*** READ ***
This is for everyone - figured now is good as time as any. State of the release.
- The location triggers are being completely revamped to assure correct radio locations. I found robdad's same beef to be annoying, having inaccurate locations, so I'm fixing them - all.
- Re-vis'ing portions of the map. Thanks to Null, I'm doing some baseline work on vis which will ultimately be totally rehomed in supersoldier.
- The hotel grass has been tweaked to current level greatness, because it will be a signature texture and I want it to be done right in the release.
- Wall of Immortality continues to be worked on. I'm still unhappy with the area layout. All aesthetics so fear no gameplay changes. Note anything I'm discussing here has no affect on gameplay.
- -FINALLY- created the KrAt lawn sign, and it is awesome. Actually got the desired appearance I'd hoped for from my concept ideas. Pulling off z-45 degree alignments took some serious skills. Most players will find it to be yet another natural throw-away object, which means it's correctly done (to me). :) Explanation of this downward.
- Must finish the newspaper, and dammit there will be a pond publishing sign.
- Nodrop assessment and fixes.
- Various other minor cleanups as I see them.
It's me against the world for a while. I'm taking my time. Simple as that!
wily duck, Tue Jun 09 2009, 10:00PM
dad
sorry if someone else has posted this further up, I don't have time to catch up on the thread.
The locations reported by radio are sometimes wrong. I've noticed "Hotel Roof" when I've been in Hotel Maintenance, and "Executive Room" when I've been on the new highway billboard.
the blue player spawning in red security room is not uncommon btw, happened to me yesterday too.
*** READ ***
This is for everyone - figured now is good as time as any. State of the release.
- The location triggers are being completely revamped to assure correct radio locations. I found robdad's same beef to be annoying, having inaccurate locations, so I'm fixing them - all.
- Re-vis'ing portions of the map. Thanks to Null, I'm doing some baseline work on vis which will ultimately be totally rehomed in supersoldier.
- The hotel grass has been tweaked to current level greatness, because it will be a signature texture and I want it to be done right in the release.
- Wall of Immortality continues to be worked on. I'm still unhappy with the area layout. All aesthetics so fear no gameplay changes. Note anything I'm discussing here has no affect on gameplay.
- -FINALLY- created the KrAt lawn sign, and it is awesome. Actually got the desired appearance I'd hoped for from my concept ideas. Pulling off z-45 degree alignments took some serious skills. Most players will find it to be yet another natural throw-away object, which means it's correctly done (to me). :) Explanation of this downward.
- Must finish the newspaper, and dammit there will be a pond publishing sign.
- Nodrop assessment and fixes.
- Various other minor cleanups as I see them.
It's me against the world for a while. I'm taking my time. Simple as that!
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el kabong, Wed Jun 10 2009, 06:27AM
Young man, I want the completed assignment on my desk by Friday. No excuses.
el kabong, Wed Jun 10 2009, 06:27AM
wily duck
It's me against the world for a while. I'm taking my time. Simple as that!
Young man, I want the completed assignment on my desk by Friday. No excuses.
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CDaly, Wed Jun 10 2009, 06:39AM
I think I know most of the new jumps and other features of this release.
Anyone care to enlighten me on how the wall of immortality is suppose to work? Well besides informing people when someone lemmings there they are not immortal :) Maybe if I come into bustop to right of hotel (blue base) and arc over I can catch that banked curve. I've asked some of the regulars in the game and they didn't know either, haven't seen anyone make use of it yet either.
CDaly, Wed Jun 10 2009, 06:39AM
I think I know most of the new jumps and other features of this release.
Anyone care to enlighten me on how the wall of immortality is suppose to work? Well besides informing people when someone lemmings there they are not immortal :) Maybe if I come into bustop to right of hotel (blue base) and arc over I can catch that banked curve. I've asked some of the regulars in the game and they didn't know either, haven't seen anyone make use of it yet either.
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Littlefoot, Wed Jun 10 2009, 11:27AM
I think the point of the "Wall of Immortality" is for Duckie to honor those who have contributed to the testing of beta versions...if I understand it correctly. And those who continue to "test" and discuss findings.
Please correct me if I'm wrong Wily :-D
Littlefoot, Wed Jun 10 2009, 11:27AM
I think the point of the "Wall of Immortality" is for Duckie to honor those who have contributed to the testing of beta versions...if I understand it correctly. And those who continue to "test" and discuss findings.
Please correct me if I'm wrong Wily :-D
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FSK405|worm, Wed Jun 10 2009, 11:49AM
yeah that whole immortality thing is confusing me - i keep seeing "ye are not immortal" as bigtext every now and again. whats the craic wily?
can't blame you for taking your time - the map has undergone a hell of a lot of work since the devel from b4 started, and as you can tell the whole community is buzzing about it! To be honest I think a while in pre release will be a good thing, as its under 24/7 testing from the whole community now.
Thanks again for the ggs. robdad freaks me out a bit!
FSK405|worm, Wed Jun 10 2009, 11:49AM
yeah that whole immortality thing is confusing me - i keep seeing "ye are not immortal" as bigtext every now and again. whats the craic wily?
can't blame you for taking your time - the map has undergone a hell of a lot of work since the devel from b4 started, and as you can tell the whole community is buzzing about it! To be honest I think a while in pre release will be a good thing, as its under 24/7 testing from the whole community now.
Thanks again for the ggs. robdad freaks me out a bit!
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deleted-user, Wed Jun 10 2009, 04:04PM
See, I thought it was just so he could put a another picture of Brad Pitt up there. A nice, BIG one for all of us to toss nades at and lemming on.
(On that note, how cool would it be if it did take an HK to 'unlock' the wall of immortality? Not worth the work, probably, but interesting none the less.)
deleted-user, Wed Jun 10 2009, 04:04PM
See, I thought it was just so he could put a another picture of Brad Pitt up there. A nice, BIG one for all of us to toss nades at and lemming on.
(On that note, how cool would it be if it did take an HK to 'unlock' the wall of immortality? Not worth the work, probably, but interesting none the less.)
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CDaly, Wed Jun 10 2009, 06:43PM
Tink,
Like using a HK to rocket jump? :) That would be cool.
CDaly, Wed Jun 10 2009, 06:43PM
Tink,
Like using a HK to rocket jump? :) That would be cool.
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momo, Fri Jun 12 2009, 04:02PM
You can hide your weed in there. :P
momo, Fri Jun 12 2009, 04:02PM
CDaly
I think I know most of the new jumps and other features of this release.
Anyone care to enlighten me on how the wall of immortality is suppose to work? Well besides informing people when someone lemmings there they are not immortal :) Maybe if I come into bustop to right of hotel (blue base) and arc over I can catch that banked curve. I've asked some of the regulars in the game and they didn't know either, haven't seen anyone make use of it yet either.
You can hide your weed in there. :P
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|$|Son, Sat Jun 13 2009, 05:04AM
:P hmmmmm, ill dig a big hole there to finda ya weed in i´ll run like hell to smoke it all :D
daly i dunno if we can slide from bus to the wall, but ill try it.
in my opinion the wall was made to remind us all that were not the highlanders :D
|$|Son, Sat Jun 13 2009, 05:04AM
:P hmmmmm, ill dig a big hole there to finda ya weed in i´ll run like hell to smoke it all :D
daly i dunno if we can slide from bus to the wall, but ill try it.
in my opinion the wall was made to remind us all that were not the highlanders :D
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|$|TheDamager, Sat Jun 13 2009, 06:49AM
hey wily, you know how u said u no-drop clipped everything? I found a place u didnt: right on the edge of the 'tower" below Pond Publishing, the flag droped there after i was snipe'd and didnt return. It looked like it was hovering in mid air right beside the tower. got shot again before i could screen shot it but this is the place:
Flag was in the circle
|$|TheDamager, Sat Jun 13 2009, 06:49AM
hey wily, you know how u said u no-drop clipped everything? I found a place u didnt: right on the edge of the 'tower" below Pond Publishing, the flag droped there after i was snipe'd and didnt return. It looked like it was hovering in mid air right beside the tower. got shot again before i could screen shot it but this is the place:
Flag was in the circle
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deleted-user, Mon Jun 15 2009, 01:24AM
I've noticed that there are still parts of the ledge below blue where you can lemming. I'm not sure if that's 'fixable' or even intended, but I figured I'd bring it up since it does make it seem less put together.
deleted-user, Mon Jun 15 2009, 01:24AM
I've noticed that there are still parts of the ledge below blue where you can lemming. I'm not sure if that's 'fixable' or even intended, but I figured I'd bring it up since it does make it seem less put together.
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wily duck, Mon Jun 15 2009, 05:23PM
This falls under nodrop assessments. Appears that a nodrop must envelop the entity space, rather than just touch it. That's why you'll see flag drops not return at edges where you'd think it should.
You are correct Littlefoot. In fact, I just cut out some text here as it will pertain to what I want on the wall. :)
wily duck, Mon Jun 15 2009, 05:23PM
This falls under nodrop assessments. Appears that a nodrop must envelop the entity space, rather than just touch it. That's why you'll see flag drops not return at edges where you'd think it should.
You are correct Littlefoot. In fact, I just cut out some text here as it will pertain to what I want on the wall. :)
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THURMAN_MERMAN, Mon Jun 15 2009, 08:32PM
would be cool if the heli went between the top of red and then over to blue or vice versa, and you could ride in it but I am sure i am asking to much......
THURMAN_MERMAN, Mon Jun 15 2009, 08:32PM
would be cool if the heli went between the top of red and then over to blue or vice versa, and you could ride in it but I am sure i am asking to much......
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Littlefoot, Mon Jun 15 2009, 10:21PM
OMG Thurman...don't you think he has enough on his plate???? What? Being a "Super Soldier" with the ability to fly YOURSELF from roof top to roof top isn't enough for you????
Sorry Thurman, personally I don't think a helicopter would add to game play in a positive way in this instance. And I think it would be just a little too much...but, this is just MY opinion and I meant no disrespect for your opinion!
Littlefoot, Mon Jun 15 2009, 10:21PM
OMG Thurman...don't you think he has enough on his plate???? What? Being a "Super Soldier" with the ability to fly YOURSELF from roof top to roof top isn't enough for you????
Sorry Thurman, personally I don't think a helicopter would add to game play in a positive way in this instance. And I think it would be just a little too much...but, this is just MY opinion and I meant no disrespect for your opinion!
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deleted-user, Mon Jun 15 2009, 11:31PM
You're wrong, littlefoot. Helicopters have been a long time source of comical hilarity in UrT. Just wrong! :P *heavy sarcasm* (yes, I realize, I have a better chance at growing a full head of hair than Wily putting a heli into the game.)
deleted-user, Mon Jun 15 2009, 11:31PM
You're wrong, littlefoot. Helicopters have been a long time source of comical hilarity in UrT. Just wrong! :P *heavy sarcasm* (yes, I realize, I have a better chance at growing a full head of hair than Wily putting a heli into the game.)
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
wily duck, Tue Jun 16 2009, 02:35PM
I really wanted to put a chopper in that did something. Unfortunately the entity to make this work, i.e. sands chopper, is broken. In supersoldier futures (known as supersoldier_alpha02), there is to be a hovering chopper - with multiple purposes of course.
SSf will probably just be absorbed into SS. As I've noted before, I am hitting the ceiling of what the game can handle in some aspects - but maybe I'm just a noob and not using the map capabilities in an optimized way. It may be possible in 4.2 that the entity to control something is fixed. Consider that superman is designed for 4.1, whereas supersoldier will be 4.2+.
wily duck, Tue Jun 16 2009, 02:35PM
I really wanted to put a chopper in that did something. Unfortunately the entity to make this work, i.e. sands chopper, is broken. In supersoldier futures (known as supersoldier_alpha02), there is to be a hovering chopper - with multiple purposes of course.
SSf will probably just be absorbed into SS. As I've noted before, I am hitting the ceiling of what the game can handle in some aspects - but maybe I'm just a noob and not using the map capabilities in an optimized way. It may be possible in 4.2 that the entity to control something is fixed. Consider that superman is designed for 4.1, whereas supersoldier will be 4.2+.
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Deadmeat, Wed Jun 17 2009, 08:21AM
If you can't make the helicopter fly, make the blades rotate and have them kill people that land on it or walk underneath it. You could revise the aimpoint for the Mil HQ to Pond jump to land on the hut on top of Pond, or just leave it as is and make people steer away from the blades in mid-air. There's a map with rotating airplane blades that kills if you walk into them. I forget the name but it has something to do with drug smuggling and it's on the FSK405 map cycle at present (I played it last night).
Deadmeat, Wed Jun 17 2009, 08:21AM
If you can't make the helicopter fly, make the blades rotate and have them kill people that land on it or walk underneath it. You could revise the aimpoint for the Mil HQ to Pond jump to land on the hut on top of Pond, or just leave it as is and make people steer away from the blades in mid-air. There's a map with rotating airplane blades that kills if you walk into them. I forget the name but it has something to do with drug smuggling and it's on the FSK405 map cycle at present (I played it last night).
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$|SantaClauzzze, Wed Jun 17 2009, 02:27PM
its called ut4_druglord and i think that making the blades move would be overkill. Although it would be funny when noobs landed on it and killed themselves.
$|SantaClauzzze, Wed Jun 17 2009, 02:27PM
its called ut4_druglord and i think that making the blades move would be overkill. Although it would be funny when noobs landed on it and killed themselves.
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BanMe, Wed Jun 17 2009, 02:55PM
What about giving Doom an executive room like the red building. Give snipers a place to hide.
BanMe, Wed Jun 17 2009, 02:55PM
What about giving Doom an executive room like the red building. Give snipers a place to hide.
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$|SantaClauzzze, Mon Jun 22 2009, 04:43PM
Then what would be the point of the midlevels?
Maybe the doors at the bottom opening into a room would be kinda cool.
$|SantaClauzzze, Mon Jun 22 2009, 04:43PM
Then what would be the point of the midlevels?
Maybe the doors at the bottom opening into a room would be kinda cool.
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Fokker, Mon Jun 22 2009, 07:42PM
doom use to have a room Ban - stay tuned for supersoldier of the future
Fokker, Mon Jun 22 2009, 07:42PM
doom use to have a room Ban - stay tuned for supersoldier of the future
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Boogie Knight, Mon Jun 22 2009, 08:02PM
I failed at screen shot but I was standing on the ground at the corner of doom peeking over at red building. I noticed that the green texture on the little ledge that you added has a top surface that is floating a little above the top of the ledge.
Boogie Knight, Mon Jun 22 2009, 08:02PM
I failed at screen shot but I was standing on the ground at the corner of doom peeking over at red building. I noticed that the green texture on the little ledge that you added has a top surface that is floating a little above the top of the ledge.
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
momo, Mon Jun 22 2009, 10:57PM
Wily. I was killed faling down the right side of the mil building and the flag dropped into the wall at ground level. Looking from the street its the right side outside the little pool.
momo, Mon Jun 22 2009, 10:57PM
Wily. I was killed faling down the right side of the mil building and the flag dropped into the wall at ground level. Looking from the street its the right side outside the little pool.
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|$|TheDamager, Tue Jun 23 2009, 03:20AM
not sure if this is supposed to happen, but when i used the jump behind blue, i hit the top of the building going up and lemminged
|$|TheDamager, Tue Jun 23 2009, 03:20AM
not sure if this is supposed to happen, but when i used the jump behind blue, i hit the top of the building going up and lemminged
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deleted-user, Tue Jun 23 2009, 03:21AM
A night or two ago we switched rounds. I had been on red and was switched to blue. When the warm up time for the map passed I was blue and spawned on red roof. It's not necessarily a huge problem, but noteworthy.
deleted-user, Tue Jun 23 2009, 03:21AM
A night or two ago we switched rounds. I had been on red and was switched to blue. When the warm up time for the map passed I was blue and spawned on red roof. It's not necessarily a huge problem, but noteworthy.
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|$|Son, Tue Jun 23 2009, 07:28AM
mr tinker that happens lot of times, and even in old superman that happened to me to.
now i´ve checked a new stuff for me, dunno if u guys know that.
in the gargabe containers behing hotel roof, if u jump into the open one, u can enter there and stay there crouched, u can live in garbage :D or maybe camp to get some guys :P
|$|Son, Tue Jun 23 2009, 07:28AM
mr tinker that happens lot of times, and even in old superman that happened to me to.
now i´ve checked a new stuff for me, dunno if u guys know that.
in the gargabe containers behing hotel roof, if u jump into the open one, u can enter there and stay there crouched, u can live in garbage :D or maybe camp to get some guys :P
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|$|FlanKthem, Tue Jun 23 2009, 09:32AM
lol son, among all people, you're the who discovers tht!
life experience? :D
|$|FlanKthem, Tue Jun 23 2009, 09:32AM
lol son, among all people, you're the who discovers tht!
life experience? :D
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$|SantaClauzzze, Tue Jun 23 2009, 10:56AM
LOL!
$|SantaClauzzze, Tue Jun 23 2009, 10:56AM
LOL!
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|$|Son, Tue Jun 23 2009, 02:09PM
Its my life story, i was found in a garbage container. :P
i was looking for food there and then i got into it and i felt home :)
|$|Son, Tue Jun 23 2009, 02:09PM
Its my life story, i was found in a garbage container. :P
i was looking for food there and then i got into it and i felt home :)
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|$|TheDamager, Wed Jun 24 2009, 04:01AM
Did u notice what happens when u move underneath the closed bin? Kinda hurts a bit...
|$|TheDamager, Wed Jun 24 2009, 04:01AM
Did u notice what happens when u move underneath the closed bin? Kinda hurts a bit...
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|$|TheDamager, Wed Jun 24 2009, 04:10AM
another cool thing, if you fall down into the Doom pool and hold crouch, you lemming. Found by accident, i dont go around Trying to kill myself...
|$|TheDamager, Wed Jun 24 2009, 04:10AM
another cool thing, if you fall down into the Doom pool and hold crouch, you lemming. Found by accident, i dont go around Trying to kill myself...
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$|SantaClauzzze, Wed Jun 24 2009, 05:01AM
LOL Just had to make sure they didnt jump to conclusions ehh?
$|SantaClauzzze, Wed Jun 24 2009, 05:01AM
LOL Just had to make sure they didnt jump to conclusions ehh?
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|$|TheDamager, Wed Jun 24 2009, 05:19AM
yep, enuf ppl think im an emo as it is. And jumping without looking is never good
|$|TheDamager, Wed Jun 24 2009, 05:19AM
yep, enuf ppl think im an emo as it is. And jumping without looking is never good
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Deadmeat, Wed Jun 24 2009, 01:48PM
Tried it once and got stuck in the bin. Not sure if it's a bug or if I just need to jump in the right direction to escape.
Deadmeat, Wed Jun 24 2009, 01:48PM
TheDamager
Did u notice what happens when u move underneath the closed bin? Kinda hurts a bit...
Tried it once and got stuck in the bin. Not sure if it's a bug or if I just need to jump in the right direction to escape.
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|$|TheDamager, Thu Jun 25 2009, 12:55AM
it takes abit of work getting out but I got there in the end after I thought I had got stuck. U just have to wiggle around and jump and crouch at the right time
|$|TheDamager, Thu Jun 25 2009, 12:55AM
it takes abit of work getting out but I got there in the end after I thought I had got stuck. U just have to wiggle around and jump and crouch at the right time
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Deviant-x, Thu Jun 25 2009, 08:10AM
thats happened to me on many maps and many servers.
Deviant-x, Thu Jun 25 2009, 08:10AM
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A night or two ago we switched rounds. I had been on red and was switched to blue. When the warm up time for the map passed I was blue and spawned on red roof. It's not necessarily a huge problem, but noteworthy.
thats happened to me on many maps and many servers.
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
$|SantaClauzzze, Fri Jun 26 2009, 06:49AM
I have an idea for something to add to the map possibly in future versions of the map (beta 7 or 8) also your initial answer is going to be no because it changes the gameplay too much. But i felt like posting it anyway. Why don't you take this building (first picture) and give it a ladder leading to either a subway with an arrow like the parking spots or a sewer also with said arrows. Then at the end where they stop there could be a latter going up to a rode grate. I think it's a good idea but it sounds like alot of work so if you dont like the idea dont pay any attention.
$|SantaClauzzze, Fri Jun 26 2009, 06:49AM
I have an idea for something to add to the map possibly in future versions of the map (beta 7 or 8) also your initial answer is going to be no because it changes the gameplay too much. But i felt like posting it anyway. Why don't you take this building (first picture) and give it a ladder leading to either a subway with an arrow like the parking spots or a sewer also with said arrows. Then at the end where they stop there could be a latter going up to a rode grate. I think it's a good idea but it sounds like alot of work so if you dont like the idea dont pay any attention.
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wily duck, Fri Jun 26 2009, 05:48PM
That's a reasonable suggestion Clauze, but one for a later version.
I ran into a problem just recently. Read this if you'd like to know the details. Summary - I accidentally nuked my PC. Bottom line, the map is safe, through serious vigor, although it will be a few days before my system is back in order.
wily duck, Fri Jun 26 2009, 05:48PM
That's a reasonable suggestion Clauze, but one for a later version.
I ran into a problem just recently. Read this if you'd like to know the details. Summary - I accidentally nuked my PC. Bottom line, the map is safe, through serious vigor, although it will be a few days before my system is back in order.
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theSheilaDivine, Fri Jun 26 2009, 06:26PM
it could be a good idea. Mindriot and I were thinking about something similar for Dealey Plaza
theSheilaDivine, Fri Jun 26 2009, 06:26PM
it could be a good idea. Mindriot and I were thinking about something similar for Dealey Plaza
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Boogie Knight, Fri Jun 26 2009, 07:48PM
This is what I was talking about[
Boogie Knight, Fri Jun 26 2009, 07:48PM
This is what I was talking about[
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BanMe, Fri Jun 26 2009, 09:35PM
Think you could make lower pond easier to get too? something like this maybe add a ladder and a rail
BanMe, Fri Jun 26 2009, 09:35PM
Think you could make lower pond easier to get too? something like this maybe add a ladder and a rail
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CDaly, Sun Jun 28 2009, 09:28PM
Sheila,
I've missed Dealey (no relation) and glad to hear you are working on it again. I use to get on your server but nobody would go with game mode vote other than Team Deathmatch. I prefer game modes with a plot (CTF, Bomb, C&H).
CDaly, Sun Jun 28 2009, 09:28PM
$heilaDivine
it could be a good idea. Mindriot and I were thinking about something similar for Dealey Plaza
Sheila,
I've missed Dealey (no relation) and glad to hear you are working on it again. I use to get on your server but nobody would go with game mode vote other than Team Deathmatch. I prefer game modes with a plot (CTF, Bomb, C&H).
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wily duck, Mon Jun 29 2009, 05:23PM
Boogie - That's an affect of the new grass shader. We'll see if the bushes get any improvement in the final.
Ban_me - Would be nice, not this time around.
wily duck, Mon Jun 29 2009, 05:23PM
Boogie - That's an affect of the new grass shader. We'll see if the bushes get any improvement in the final.
Ban_me - Would be nice, not this time around.
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Boogie Knight, Mon Jun 29 2009, 06:46PM
Well...the map is a lot better, i think, than the old one. Ban Me's idea is a good one but it's getting harder to find flag carriers with all the additions. Especially when there are only 3 -5 people per team. If a flag carrier keeps moving, with added tunnels, arrows, etc. it would take forever to find him (if at all)
Boogie Knight, Mon Jun 29 2009, 06:46PM
Well...the map is a lot better, i think, than the old one. Ban Me's idea is a good one but it's getting harder to find flag carriers with all the additions. Especially when there are only 3 -5 people per team. If a flag carrier keeps moving, with added tunnels, arrows, etc. it would take forever to find him (if at all)
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CDaly, Mon Jun 29 2009, 08:14PM
I haven't tried on this new version but you can get to lower ponds roof from doom. Start at the top tower and hop jump along the far right edge, jump once on the lower doom and over towards lower ponds. From there with some good timing and mid air arc adjusting you can ledge grab lower ponds.
It would be nice if you could arc from an arrow and if the apex of your arc is not too much higher than your landing spot you should get a soft landing imho, that could get you into some spots like lower ponds. I don't think you can factor in total height attained when conserving momentum in jump beyond simple low altitude jumps but what do I know? Seems like soft or hard landing spots only.
I am not that stellar a ledge grabber, if I was I might camp from one of the lower levels of doom :) The bushes do encourage trying to get down there every now and then without fear of a lemming.
I am also not that great at arcing compared to many regulars...
CDaly, Mon Jun 29 2009, 08:14PM
I haven't tried on this new version but you can get to lower ponds roof from doom. Start at the top tower and hop jump along the far right edge, jump once on the lower doom and over towards lower ponds. From there with some good timing and mid air arc adjusting you can ledge grab lower ponds.
It would be nice if you could arc from an arrow and if the apex of your arc is not too much higher than your landing spot you should get a soft landing imho, that could get you into some spots like lower ponds. I don't think you can factor in total height attained when conserving momentum in jump beyond simple low altitude jumps but what do I know? Seems like soft or hard landing spots only.
I am not that stellar a ledge grabber, if I was I might camp from one of the lower levels of doom :) The bushes do encourage trying to get down there every now and then without fear of a lemming.
I am also not that great at arcing compared to many regulars...
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Boogie Knight, Tue Jun 30 2009, 09:24AM
You've always been able to ledge grag lower pond. I've only done it once. Xan tipped me off to that a long time ago but was low percentage een for him. I still try sometimes when I jump off top of doom to the arrow that takes you to blue roof. If i miss I sometimes get kicked over that way and then try to save a lemming by grabbing but no luck so far.
You don't need to be a great ledge grabber on lower doom. Just takes practise. Sometimes I'm 50 percent at that but other nights only about 10%.
The next thing I want to practise (after all these years) is to hit the arrows on garage. I can do it but very low %. :)
Boogie Knight, Tue Jun 30 2009, 09:24AM
You've always been able to ledge grag lower pond. I've only done it once. Xan tipped me off to that a long time ago but was low percentage een for him. I still try sometimes when I jump off top of doom to the arrow that takes you to blue roof. If i miss I sometimes get kicked over that way and then try to save a lemming by grabbing but no luck so far.
You don't need to be a great ledge grabber on lower doom. Just takes practise. Sometimes I'm 50 percent at that but other nights only about 10%.
The next thing I want to practise (after all these years) is to hit the arrows on garage. I can do it but very low %. :)
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|$|Son, Tue Jun 30 2009, 03:29PM
yap. for me the arrows in garage and the lower doom is my evil kenievel :P
as far as i try i always lemming, but still a noob among u all.
i´ve noticed when i jump from red hq to arrow on lower hotel, sometimes i hit the ledge behind tree and i go direct to pool in a crazy jump. never lemminged.
dunno if u guys noticed that but its real fun :D
|$|Son, Tue Jun 30 2009, 03:29PM
yap. for me the arrows in garage and the lower doom is my evil kenievel :P
as far as i try i always lemming, but still a noob among u all.
i´ve noticed when i jump from red hq to arrow on lower hotel, sometimes i hit the ledge behind tree and i go direct to pool in a crazy jump. never lemminged.
dunno if u guys noticed that but its real fun :D
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Boogie Knight, Tue Jun 30 2009, 05:19PM
Yes son, there are players who used to take blue flag to the front left corner of blue, jump down, and hit that ledge. With the right guidance you can go directly to the arrow in front of red or just land in the water. You can also hit the little ledge that's at a 45 degree angle and go flying over toward the freeway.
Boogie Knight, Tue Jun 30 2009, 05:19PM
Yes son, there are players who used to take blue flag to the front left corner of blue, jump down, and hit that ledge. With the right guidance you can go directly to the arrow in front of red or just land in the water. You can also hit the little ledge that's at a 45 degree angle and go flying over toward the freeway.
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BanMe, Tue Jun 30 2009, 07:24PM
here is one to try.
Slide across red roof hit the arrow torwards pond. curve mid air to the arrow that shoots you to the executive room. Once you hit that arrow start to curve to the blue roof to make the capture. !amazed
BanMe, Tue Jun 30 2009, 07:24PM
here is one to try.
Slide across red roof hit the arrow torwards pond. curve mid air to the arrow that shoots you to the executive room. Once you hit that arrow start to curve to the blue roof to make the capture. !amazed
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|$|Son, Wed Jul 01 2009, 06:33AM
i saw that already to ban, i´ve tried some times but leminged always :P i´m not a real superman, only fly when i get high :D
another crazy thing. in ponds to, when we hit arrow that send us to back military hq and fall in the yellow porsche, if we aim to the windshield to land, if we crouch in the time we hit the car we are send back to ponds(waterfall).
i´ve noticed this once while ruuning away with flag, i confused the bastard and got into ponds again in 4 seconds
:D
|$|Son, Wed Jul 01 2009, 06:33AM
i saw that already to ban, i´ve tried some times but leminged always :P i´m not a real superman, only fly when i get high :D
another crazy thing. in ponds to, when we hit arrow that send us to back military hq and fall in the yellow porsche, if we aim to the windshield to land, if we crouch in the time we hit the car we are send back to ponds(waterfall).
i´ve noticed this once while ruuning away with flag, i confused the bastard and got into ponds again in 4 seconds
:D
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|$|TheDamager, Mon Jul 06 2009, 05:49AM
I've found another place the flag can get stuck: i flew off red to the river in the park. Thought i'd lined it up right but lemminged. When i went back to the flag, it hadn't auto returned, imwas directly above the icon and there was no flag to be seen.
|$|TheDamager, Mon Jul 06 2009, 05:49AM
I've found another place the flag can get stuck: i flew off red to the river in the park. Thought i'd lined it up right but lemminged. When i went back to the flag, it hadn't auto returned, imwas directly above the icon and there was no flag to be seen.
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wily duck, Tue Jul 07 2009, 04:14PM
If you can get me more info TheDamager, that would help. No idea what icon you're talking about either.
wily duck, Tue Jul 07 2009, 04:14PM
If you can get me more info TheDamager, that would help. No idea what icon you're talking about either.
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Boogie Knight, Tue Jul 07 2009, 07:15PM
I think he means on the mini map
Boogie Knight, Tue Jul 07 2009, 07:15PM
I think he means on the mini map
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
RedScull, Thu Jul 09 2009, 02:52PM
I love this map, but I ran across one thing that might need to be addressed if you get time, wily_duck. On the overpass immediately above the humvee the clipping on the edges may not be perfect. I've lemming'd a couple times trying to jump from red to the humvee on what appears to be an invisible edge.
And there's the ladder on top of blue, but that more falls under the "I'm an idiot" category
RedScull, Thu Jul 09 2009, 02:52PM
I love this map, but I ran across one thing that might need to be addressed if you get time, wily_duck. On the overpass immediately above the humvee the clipping on the edges may not be perfect. I've lemming'd a couple times trying to jump from red to the humvee on what appears to be an invisible edge.
And there's the ladder on top of blue, but that more falls under the "I'm an idiot" category
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
wily duck, Thu Jul 23 2009, 04:10PM
Posting release updates to a new thread. This thread will continue to apply to the current _pre version.
wily duck, Thu Jul 23 2009, 04:10PM
Posting release updates to a new thread. This thread will continue to apply to the current _pre version.
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
XsmoKer, Mon Aug 31 2009, 09:48AM
the spot over the door to Red Lobby....
are you going to make it inaccessible?
Or do I really need to learn more jumps? XsmoKer
XsmoKer, Mon Aug 31 2009, 09:48AM
the spot over the door to Red Lobby....
are you going to make it inaccessible?
Or do I really need to learn more jumps? XsmoKer
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wily duck, Mon Aug 31 2009, 11:42AM
Always accessible but flags will return. Documented this in the "Marching Onward" thread.
wily duck, Mon Aug 31 2009, 11:42AM
Always accessible but flags will return. Documented this in the "Marching Onward" thread.
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Littlefoot, Mon Aug 31 2009, 06:03PM
You need to learn more jumps...noob!!!
Littlefoot, Mon Aug 31 2009, 06:03PM
VirtualElvis
the spot over the door to Red Lobby....
are you going to make it inaccessible?
Or do I really need to learn more jumps? XsmoKer
You need to learn more jumps...noob!!!
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
Boogie Knight, Mon Aug 31 2009, 09:19PM
If I'm blue, I like to take my gun, shoot red guys, grab flag, and bring it back to blue flag. Just sayin.
Boogie Knight, Mon Aug 31 2009, 09:19PM
If I'm blue, I like to take my gun, shoot red guys, grab flag, and bring it back to blue flag. Just sayin.
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Squrl, Sat Sept 05 2009, 04:13PM
and if Im red... I take my gun die by the gun of boogie and respawn after he captured the flag. lol
Squrl, Sat Sept 05 2009, 04:13PM
and if Im red... I take my gun die by the gun of boogie and respawn after he captured the flag. lol
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BatMann, Sat Sept 05 2009, 04:16PM
saw that one lol just sayin llol
BatMann, Sat Sept 05 2009, 04:16PM
saw that one lol just sayin llol
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|$|FlanKthem, Sun Sept 06 2009, 03:20AM
Hey, just wondering,
Anyone ever as a red - go up to blue base using their front arrow take flag then use the "speedo" (i dont know what to call it) on ground next to the light post (the side where the hotel car is) to slide across the street to maybe behind red building or front of it?
walking there makes me sliding just fine but jumping from above, Im always lemming no matter how close I am to that thing (the 2 thing, what dya call it? lol)
|$|FlanKthem, Sun Sept 06 2009, 03:20AM
Hey, just wondering,
Anyone ever as a red - go up to blue base using their front arrow take flag then use the "speedo" (i dont know what to call it) on ground next to the light post (the side where the hotel car is) to slide across the street to maybe behind red building or front of it?
walking there makes me sliding just fine but jumping from above, Im always lemming no matter how close I am to that thing (the 2 thing, what dya call it? lol)
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|$|FlanKthem, Sun Sept 06 2009, 03:22AM
omg ban! We demand a demo!
|$|FlanKthem, Sun Sept 06 2009, 03:22AM
Ban_Me]
[$E
here is one to try.
Slide across red roof hit the arrow torwards pond. curve mid air to the arrow that shoots you to the executive room. Once you hit that arrow start to curve to the blue roof to make the capture. !amazed
omg ban! We demand a demo!
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|$|Son, Sun Sept 06 2009, 07:24AM
if u take atention flank, u will see that many times in server.
just saw some guys doing that jump
|$|Son, Sun Sept 06 2009, 07:24AM
if u take atention flank, u will see that many times in server.
just saw some guys doing that jump
Re: Superman PRE-Release info!
BanMe, Sun Sept 06 2009, 08:50AM
]1252245015_1814_FT24273_seeifyoucandothis.zip[/file]
BanMe, Sun Sept 06 2009, 08:50AM
Ban_Me]
[$E
here is one to try.
Slide across red roof hit the arrow torwards pond. curve mid air to the arrow that shoots you to the executive room. Once you hit that arrow start to curve to the blue roof to make the capture. !amazed
omg ban! We demand a demo!
|$|FlanKthem
]1252245015_1814_FT24273_seeifyoucandothis.zip[/file]
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|$|FlanKthem, Sun Sept 06 2009, 05:09PM
@ban :D Thanks
@Son : Never really saw anyone yet myself. Must be possible bcoz i did it once or twice. Never really make it regular, lemming problems :s
|$|FlanKthem, Sun Sept 06 2009, 05:09PM
@ban :D Thanks
@Son : Never really saw anyone yet myself. Must be possible bcoz i did it once or twice. Never really make it regular, lemming problems :s
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