gaming routeres, are they BS or do they really help?
ZELLIS, Sat Mar 14 2009, 08:16PMgaming routers, are they BS or do they really help? the application in is wireless "N" network.
background, I have been gaming the last 7ys on a wireless connecting and a laptop. the connection has always been pretty good, but the last year or so i feel the connection quality is failing. i get lots of shark fins on the net graph when playing on any server. sometimes the net graph top stream moves very slowly and i then i get game play problems. normally it moves fast my pin to the server is constant 50~60 ping
C:\Users\shawn>tracert fsk405.com
Tracing route to fsk405.com [74.53.204.82]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 24 ms 1 ms 4 ms xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 11 ms 8 ms 9 ms 68.87.208.121
4 14 ms 16 ms 8 ms po-10-ur03.algonquin.il.chicago.comcast.net [68.87.231.77]
5 10 ms 23 ms 11 ms po-20-ur02.algonquin.il.chicago.comcast.net [68.87.231.73]
6 14 ms 18 ms 9 ms po-10-ur01.algonquin.il.chicago.comcast.net [68.87.230.21]
7 12 ms 17 ms 10 ms be-60-ar01.elmhurst.il.chicago.comcast.net [68.87.230.17]
8 14 ms 12 ms 13 ms be-10-ar01.area4.il.chicago.comcast.net [68.87.229.109]
9 21 ms 17 ms 13 ms pos-0-7-0-0-cr01.chicago.il.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.90.49]
10 40 ms 39 ms 38 ms pos-0-9-0-0-cr01.atlanta.ga.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.85.166]
11 59 ms 54 ms 52 ms pos-1-15-0-0-cr01.dallas.tx.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.85.149]
12 61 ms 52 ms 52 ms theplanet-cr01.dallas.tx.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.88.50]
13 51 ms 57 ms 52 ms te9-1.dsr01.dllstx3.theplanet.com [70.87.253.6]
14 64 ms 53 ms 54 ms 76.fd.5746.static.theplanet.com [70.87.253.118]
15 75 ms 54 ms 53 ms po1.car06.dllstx6.theplanet.com [12.96.160.8]
16 51 ms 62 ms 53 ms 52.cc.354a.static.theplanet.com [74.53.204.82]
Trace complete.
thanks.
what can i do to help the connection?
Re: gaming routeres, are they BS or do they really help?
FSK405 Earl, Sun Mar 15 2009, 12:49AM
Your connection is better than most the whole way through looking at your tracert. Nothing, you would improve on end to end from what your tracert is saying.
FSK405 Earl, Sun Mar 15 2009, 12:49AM
Your connection is better than most the whole way through looking at your tracert. Nothing, you would improve on end to end from what your tracert is saying.
Re: gaming routeres, are they BS or do they really help?
Boogie Knight, Sun Mar 15 2009, 09:09AM
Here's mine. No router. Yours doesn't seem bad. I thought i read somewhere where you can fix shark fins with either /rate or maxpackets. just a little lower. Maybe just bind a key for when that happens
Boogie Knight, Sun Mar 15 2009, 09:09AM
Here's mine. No router. Yours doesn't seem bad. I thought i read somewhere where you can fix shark fins with either /rate or maxpackets. just a little lower. Maybe just bind a key for when that happens
Re: gaming routeres, are they BS or do they really help?
Boogie Knight, Sun Mar 15 2009, 09:12AM
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Boogie Knight, Sun Mar 15 2009, 09:12AM
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Re: gaming routeres, are they BS or do they really help?
Gladi8r, Sun Mar 15 2009, 10:14AM
Looks similar to mine, maybe a bit better. I'm in Illinois too.
Gladi8r, Sun Mar 15 2009, 10:14AM
Looks similar to mine, maybe a bit better. I'm in Illinois too.
Re: gaming routeres, are they BS or do they really help?
ZELLIS, Sun Mar 15 2009, 12:25PM
i have messed with the rate in the drop down menu but is doesn't seem to help. when looking at the net graph, the bottom line is the Internet/server (i think) and the top line is your connection local (i think). and the speed of the top line vs the bottom line is the signal to noise ratio (i think). some PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong!!! so the problem I'm having is not a bad ping, but i think its the quality of the connection, or are they one in the same? i don't know. can you have a good ping with a crappy Signal to noise ratio? that's where i was coming from asking about the gaming router. is it possible my router could be messing up, high noise on the line? my 1st line on the trace route has 24ms, that seems high to me, then it drops to 1ms.
ZELLIS, Sun Mar 15 2009, 12:25PM
i have messed with the rate in the drop down menu but is doesn't seem to help. when looking at the net graph, the bottom line is the Internet/server (i think) and the top line is your connection local (i think). and the speed of the top line vs the bottom line is the signal to noise ratio (i think). some PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong!!! so the problem I'm having is not a bad ping, but i think its the quality of the connection, or are they one in the same? i don't know. can you have a good ping with a crappy Signal to noise ratio? that's where i was coming from asking about the gaming router. is it possible my router could be messing up, high noise on the line? my 1st line on the trace route has 24ms, that seems high to me, then it drops to 1ms.
Re: gaming routeres, are they BS or do they really help?
FSK405 Earl, Sun Mar 15 2009, 01:37PM
You could have a good ping with a shitty SNR or noise in your cable company's plant. You would see dropped packets if the noise was significant enough. At the same time you are dropping packets, your ping could still be good.
Do you have the same "experience" when you bypass your router and go straight from PC to modem?
FSK405 Earl, Sun Mar 15 2009, 01:37PM
You could have a good ping with a shitty SNR or noise in your cable company's plant. You would see dropped packets if the noise was significant enough. At the same time you are dropping packets, your ping could still be good.
Do you have the same "experience" when you bypass your router and go straight from PC to modem?
Re: gaming routeres, are they BS or do they really help?
ZELLIS, Sun Mar 15 2009, 01:43PM
i have not tried this, but it will give it a shot. i will also try to do it wired vs wirless
thanks earl
ZELLIS, Sun Mar 15 2009, 01:43PM
i have not tried this, but it will give it a shot. i will also try to do it wired vs wirless
thanks earl
Re: gaming routeres, are they BS or do they really help?
ZELLIS, Mon May 10 2010, 11:33PM
new connection issues..
C:\Users\HTPC-PC>tracert fsk405.com
Tracing route to fsk405.com [74.53.204.82]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 * * * Request timed out.
2 7 ms 10 ms 8 ms 68.87.208.97
3 8 ms 9 ms 9 ms po-20-ur02.algonquin.il.chicago.comcast.net [68.87.231.73]
4 9 ms 7 ms 9 ms po-10-ur01.algonquin.il.chicago.comcast.net [68.87.230.21]
5 10 ms 12 ms 9 ms be-60-ar01.elmhurst.il.chicago.comcast.net [68.87.230.17]
6 124 ms 130 ms 121 ms pos-0-6-0-0-ar01.indianapolis.in.indiana.comcast.net [68.87.230.242]
7 142 ms 150 ms 142 ms pos-0-4-0-0-cr01.atlanta.ga.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.90.169]
8 156 ms 156 ms 156 ms pos-1-15-0-0-cr01.dallas.tx.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.85.149]
9 153 ms 152 ms 152 ms pos-0-1-0-0-pe01.1950stemmons.tx.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.86.94]
10 158 ms 161 ms 161 ms theplanet-cr01.dallas.tx.ibone.comcast.net [75.149.228.2]
11 172 ms 159 ms 162 ms te3-5.dsr01.dllstx3.theplanet.com [70.87.253.86]
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 165 ms 166 ms 166 ms te1-1.car06.dllstx6.theplanet.com [70.87.254.178]
14 162 ms 161 ms 162 ms 52.cc.354a.static.theplanet.com [74.53.204.82]
Trace complete.
C:\Users\HTPC-PC>
I also keep loosing my Internet connection for a few seconds every 30 min or so... I wonder if they know they are having an issue with one of there routers.
ZELLIS, Mon May 10 2010, 11:33PM
new connection issues..
C:\Users\HTPC-PC>tracert fsk405.com
Tracing route to fsk405.com [74.53.204.82]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 * * * Request timed out.
2 7 ms 10 ms 8 ms 68.87.208.97
3 8 ms 9 ms 9 ms po-20-ur02.algonquin.il.chicago.comcast.net [68.87.231.73]
4 9 ms 7 ms 9 ms po-10-ur01.algonquin.il.chicago.comcast.net [68.87.230.21]
5 10 ms 12 ms 9 ms be-60-ar01.elmhurst.il.chicago.comcast.net [68.87.230.17]
6 124 ms 130 ms 121 ms pos-0-6-0-0-ar01.indianapolis.in.indiana.comcast.net [68.87.230.242]
7 142 ms 150 ms 142 ms pos-0-4-0-0-cr01.atlanta.ga.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.90.169]
8 156 ms 156 ms 156 ms pos-1-15-0-0-cr01.dallas.tx.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.85.149]
9 153 ms 152 ms 152 ms pos-0-1-0-0-pe01.1950stemmons.tx.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.86.94]
10 158 ms 161 ms 161 ms theplanet-cr01.dallas.tx.ibone.comcast.net [75.149.228.2]
11 172 ms 159 ms 162 ms te3-5.dsr01.dllstx3.theplanet.com [70.87.253.86]
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 165 ms 166 ms 166 ms te1-1.car06.dllstx6.theplanet.com [70.87.254.178]
14 162 ms 161 ms 162 ms 52.cc.354a.static.theplanet.com [74.53.204.82]
Trace complete.
C:\Users\HTPC-PC>
I also keep loosing my Internet connection for a few seconds every 30 min or so... I wonder if they know they are having an issue with one of there routers.
Re: gaming routeres, are they BS or do they really help?
ZELLIS, Tue May 11 2010, 07:00AM
wow, that was fast... problem fixed
C:\Users\HTPC-PC>tracert fsk405.com
Tracing route to fsk405.com [74.53.204.82]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 * * * Request timed out.
2 9 ms 9 ms 10 ms 68.87.208.97
3 9 ms 8 ms 9 ms po-20-ur02.algonquin.il.chicago.comcast.net [68.87.231.73]
4 9 ms 9 ms 11 ms po-10-ur01.algonquin.il.chicago.comcast.net [68.87.230.21]
5 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms be-60-ar01.elmhurst.il.chicago.comcast.net [68.87.230.17]
6 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms pos-0-6-0-0-ar01.indianapolis.in.indiana.comcast.net [68.87.230.242]
7 41 ms 40 ms 39 ms pos-0-4-0-0-cr01.atlanta.ga.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.90.169]
8 61 ms 61 ms 63 ms pos-1-15-0-0-cr01.dallas.tx.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.85.149]
9 63 ms 63 ms 61 ms pos-0-1-0-0-pe01.1950stemmons.tx.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.86.94]
10 63 ms 61 ms 63 ms theplanet-cr01.dallas.tx.ibone.comcast.net [75.149.228.2]
11 76 ms 64 ms 62 ms te3-5.dsr01.dllstx3.theplanet.com [70.87.253.86]
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 62 ms 61 ms 61 ms te1-1.car06.dllstx6.theplanet.com [70.87.254.178]
14 61 ms 62 ms 62 ms 52.cc.354a.static.theplanet.com [74.53.204.82]
Trace complete.
ZELLIS, Tue May 11 2010, 07:00AM
wow, that was fast... problem fixed
C:\Users\HTPC-PC>tracert fsk405.com
Tracing route to fsk405.com [74.53.204.82]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 * * * Request timed out.
2 9 ms 9 ms 10 ms 68.87.208.97
3 9 ms 8 ms 9 ms po-20-ur02.algonquin.il.chicago.comcast.net [68.87.231.73]
4 9 ms 9 ms 11 ms po-10-ur01.algonquin.il.chicago.comcast.net [68.87.230.21]
5 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms be-60-ar01.elmhurst.il.chicago.comcast.net [68.87.230.17]
6 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms pos-0-6-0-0-ar01.indianapolis.in.indiana.comcast.net [68.87.230.242]
7 41 ms 40 ms 39 ms pos-0-4-0-0-cr01.atlanta.ga.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.90.169]
8 61 ms 61 ms 63 ms pos-1-15-0-0-cr01.dallas.tx.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.85.149]
9 63 ms 63 ms 61 ms pos-0-1-0-0-pe01.1950stemmons.tx.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.86.94]
10 63 ms 61 ms 63 ms theplanet-cr01.dallas.tx.ibone.comcast.net [75.149.228.2]
11 76 ms 64 ms 62 ms te3-5.dsr01.dllstx3.theplanet.com [70.87.253.86]
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 62 ms 61 ms 61 ms te1-1.car06.dllstx6.theplanet.com [70.87.254.178]
14 61 ms 62 ms 62 ms 52.cc.354a.static.theplanet.com [74.53.204.82]
Trace complete.
Re: gaming routeres, are they BS or do they really help?
zimzalabing, Tue May 11 2010, 04:10PM
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zimzalabing, Tue May 11 2010, 04:10PM
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Re: gaming routeres, are they BS or do they really help?
Reflux, Tue May 11 2010, 05:05PM
Zellis,
Things like that last bit are common for me at times as well. Comcast had either some congestion or a physical hiccup that caused that. My ISP peers with Comcast as well, west cost. Comcast's link from LA to Dallas incurs a 60+ ms penalty on average. I'll have periods right in the middle of a great connection where everything drops out. A quick TR shows Comcast puking all over themselves and them my ISP routes me over a different peer.
For a netgraph discussion, see link provided
http://www.getlegitanddip.com/dailynade/lagometer.htm
-R
Reflux, Tue May 11 2010, 05:05PM
Zellis,
Things like that last bit are common for me at times as well. Comcast had either some congestion or a physical hiccup that caused that. My ISP peers with Comcast as well, west cost. Comcast's link from LA to Dallas incurs a 60+ ms penalty on average. I'll have periods right in the middle of a great connection where everything drops out. A quick TR shows Comcast puking all over themselves and them my ISP routes me over a different peer.
For a netgraph discussion, see link provided
http://www.getlegitanddip.com/dailynade/lagometer.htm
-R
Re: gaming routeres, are they BS or do they really help?
ZELLIS, Tue May 11 2010, 10:18PM
Nice link reflux, Thanks.
I typically have a good connection, that's why i was ticked when i joined up last night and im sprouting a 160 ping. I also have been doing the wireless connection and laptop, this last year however Ive been semi-forced into using a desktop. it is still wireless but i must say that I think it is spoiling me in the graphics performance department. Solid high FPS with everything turned up. COD is just so visually stimulating to watch... along with porn of course.
ZELLIS, Tue May 11 2010, 10:18PM
Nice link reflux, Thanks.
I typically have a good connection, that's why i was ticked when i joined up last night and im sprouting a 160 ping. I also have been doing the wireless connection and laptop, this last year however Ive been semi-forced into using a desktop. it is still wireless but i must say that I think it is spoiling me in the graphics performance department. Solid high FPS with everything turned up. COD is just so visually stimulating to watch... along with porn of course.
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