Re: Map rotation?
Fear, Thu Mar 05 2009, 03:17AM

^ death slap...

I think frog and dank are working on a new mapcycle. perfect timing to put in suggestions.

Re: Map rotation?
Pezcado, Thu Mar 05 2009, 03:44AM

hmm how about algiers, abbey, turnpike, austria, algiers, superman, algiers, superman, algiers, algiers? :D

Re: Map rotation?
momo, Thu Mar 05 2009, 04:47AM

^ death slap...

I think frog and dank are working on a new mapcycle. perfect timing to put in suggestions.

FSK405|Fear

Cool deal I did not know this. I guess I have just been away so long im jonesin for some good old blood bath maps. :p

Re: Map rotation?
Gladi8r, Thu Mar 05 2009, 06:46AM

I know there's something in Docks that makes it incompatible with UrT 4.x, but it would be sweet to play that again.

Re: Map rotation?
FSK405 Earl, Thu Mar 05 2009, 09:02AM

Lets keep Superman on the superman server and off the main server. PLEASE!!!

Re: Map rotation?
hud13, Thu Mar 05 2009, 09:12AM

well I like this rotation, turnpike, algiers, repeat

Re: Map rotation?
Tranc3r, Thu Mar 05 2009, 09:25AM

I would like to say that, even though those maps are great maps to play at, if we keep playing 2 or 3 maps over and over again, it would get boring over time. In the end it would be overused...

Re: Map rotation?
FSK405B, Thu Mar 05 2009, 10:39AM

FSK405 has a commitment to keeping it fresh and giving 3rd party maps serious play time. The current crop of SiD maps is long stale, IMHO. Including a few in a mapcycle is required to keep the server rolling, but if you really want to play lots of SiD maps...

I recommend going to other servers!

Re: Map rotation?
DankRider, Thu Mar 05 2009, 03:00PM

As stated above Frog and I are about to create a new cycle.. Seems like we have good success working together creating a balanced cycle. Algiers has been a staple in our cycle for years, as has turnpike aside from this past cycle. But with a 23 map cycle rotation i so no reason we couldnt add a few SID maps while still trying to push the envelope supporting the 3party map market.


With that said, here is a list of our current playable maps. If folks have suggestions now is the time to post and we will try our best to some in.


ut4_3story_beta2
ut4_asylum_b1
ut4_besitz
ut4_deceitful
ut4_efort_b1
ut4_honeyride_beta
ut4_qnd4sng
ut4_tejen_beta3
ut4_sewerlair
ut4_secretbase
ut4_moonbase
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ut4_abbey
ut4_abbeyctf
ut4_ag
ut4_algiers
ut4_ambush
ut4_arena1
ut4_arena2
ut4_arena3
ut4_austria
ut4_baghdad_alpha_A010b
ut4_behemoth_b1
ut4_blackmarket_beta
ut4_blockfort2
ut4_boxtrot_v1
ut4_boxtrot_x2
ut4_boxtrot_v3
ut4_bridgewars_2_Beta1
ut4_burbs_beta
ut4_burbs_day
ut4_burbs_night
ut4_bungalow
ut4_cambridge_fixed *No Flags
ut4_casa
ut4_cemetery666
ut4_chiroptera * No Flags
ut4_city
ut4_city3
ut4_citygardens
ut4_city666-rc2
ut4_crossing
ut4_crystalpower
ut4_dam_fixed
ut4_dealey_beta2
ut4_denton
ut4_desolate_b1
ut4_druglord
ut4_druglord2
ut4_boubledeck * No Flags
ut4_eagle
ut4_elgin
ut4_filtration
ut4_granja
ut4_hallow
ut4_harbortown
ut4_herring
ut4_intermodal_beta
ut4_iran3
ut4_ironarena
ut4_island_v0_8
ut4_killen_b2
ut4_kingdom
ut4_kingpin
ut4_kotp
ut4_laberinto_beta
ut4_laneway4_beta
ut4_loadzone
ut4_mandolin
ut4_maya
ut4_midnight
ut4_militarybunker_beta
ut4_octo
ut4_offshore
ut4_oildepot
ut4_pacman
ut4_paradise
ut4_prague
ut4_presidio_b1
ut4_pgrounds
ut4_pgroungs2
ut4_ramelle
ut4_raw_beta1.pk3
ut4_riyadh
ut4_sanc
ut4_skyscrapers
ut4_sliema
ut4_sr1
ut4_spain
ut4_subterra
ut4_suburbs
ut4_subway
ut4_swim
ut4_terrorism
ut4_terrorism2
ut4_terrorism3
ut4_thingley
ut4_tombs
ut4_toxic
ut4_tunis
ut4_turnpike
ut4_twbb
ut4_uptown
ut4_wolf_arena1.pk3
ut4_wxs2
ut4_wxs3

OtherPlayable
ut_centro
ut_castle No Flags
ut_demolition
ut_liquid - TS/TDM only
ut_berch
ut_facility
ut_japangarden2
ut_once
ut_laneway
ut_train
ut_pal_street
ut_pwnt
ut_rumble
ut_milano_V2
ut_jihad
UT_The_Day_After2
ut_conway
ut_contrada
ut_complex
ut_canyon2
ut_centro
ut_canalshores
ut_annex
ut_nuclear - missing a couple textures
ut_lostbase
ut_txantrea_beta2
ut_haven
ut_alpin
ut_hamunaptra
cemetery.pk3
territory2.pk3
cemetery.pk3
bal3void2
lillypad
leafland
pn03
papertown
TheDayAfter
ut_bungalow
coconutbeta - (TS/TDM)
estatice - [TS/TDM]
simpsons_q3
teamtemple_q3a
uptown_snow
q3ctfvoy1

Re: Map rotation?
LadyHellfire*, Thu Mar 05 2009, 03:33PM

i thought pgrounds was buggered?

pwnt, contrada, abbeyctf, once, ambush, casa, filtration (possible?), kingdom, midnight, prague, sanc, tombs, subterra, mastermind (one spawn had gym equipment I think? basketball court in spawn?)...

Wish horror was done and back. Would love to have a really nice FTL (afterhours dammit!), and a nice CAH in there (there was one that ruled.. spawn on each end, covered canals in an "X" with a center tall thing..eh..). Turnpike is fatally unbalanced and horrible for CTF IMO.

I actually like a pistols only, fast playing map. Citygardens would have been so nice minus snipers IMO. Heck, I might have to make a damn map.. nice one that is great for kicking people off buildings and such. There was a great, fast pistols map... Spawn inside in opposite corners, could climb up from spawn to roof, then there were walkways on the edges.. small and darker.. very cool.

Also, there was another map.. really dark, had metal music playing the whole time, really irritating.. but cool map...center structure , big tunnel opening in the wall to right of each flag (winds around, then continues under the map)..

Re: Map rotation?
LadyHellfire*, Thu Mar 05 2009, 03:35PM

oh- if this new league will include Bomb, then I think a bomb map is a must.. no? There was one that we had for Bomb that was almost like a staple..had a gas station for one bomb site.. (Aardtimes maybe?)

And Crossing is another cool one for CTF (Bomb is interesting on it as well.. sometimes :D)

Re: Map rotation?
FSK405 SupaflyT, Thu Mar 05 2009, 05:14PM

I really like that blackmarket map. Very cool. I'm also a big fan of mastermind. I can't remember the name of my favorite pistols map. It's basically a building on each end with an underground network. Each has a window looking at the other's window, and the middle ground is a no man's land collection of small barriers with a pillbox in the middle. When we have it on all weapons, about three people from each team hang out in the respective windows with SR8's shooting eachother. Anyone know what map I'm talking about?

Re: Map rotation?
FSK405 SupaflyT, Thu Mar 05 2009, 05:15PM

Oh yeah, and we have to have Rumble.

Re: Map rotation?
GreenEyes, Thu Mar 05 2009, 07:16PM

I miss LIVE FIRE anyone know the maker of that? I tried writing the email to the designer of the map but was an invalid e-mail UGH.....

Re: Map rotation?
momo, Thu Mar 05 2009, 08:36PM

Wow thats alot of maps... How bout we start the monthly map requests again? I love the custom maps also dont get me wrong but there is nothing like a full server on a map like turnpike or algiers. I has been know to make my wiener get stiff. LOL! :D

Re: Map rotation?
momo, Thu Mar 05 2009, 08:38PM

Livefire is a pimpin map thats for sure. Lots of blood shed in that place...

Re: Map rotation?
LadyHellfire*, Thu Mar 05 2009, 09:34PM

Ahhh! Livefire! That was the one with the music I think.. really dark.. greyish?

Once- not once I like; it is Zero.

Fokker and I spent some time going through maps today.
My new fav? ut_wxs2 (NOT 3), timelimit 20, caplimit 20, pistols and knives ONLY.
Oh- and Fokker? We played it with about 10 on a team after you left. Was AWESOME :D

Re: Map rotation?
momo, Thu Mar 05 2009, 09:38PM

Yeah B-Ver thats the one.

Re: Map rotation?
Fokker, Fri Mar 06 2009, 12:14AM

nice

Re: Map rotation?
Tranc3r, Fri Mar 06 2009, 12:45AM

Can we have a map for Team Survivor?

Re: Map rotation?
momo, Fri Mar 06 2009, 01:27AM

Don't come in here with that madness Fokker...

Re: Map rotation?
DankRider, Fri Mar 06 2009, 03:42PM

Requests
Bomb Mode Map

Pwnt
Contrada
Abbeyctf
Once
Ambush
Casa
Filtration (Will not handle our player volume, unplayable for pub)
Kingdom
Midnight (Removed it due to obnoxious fun stuff items)
Prague
Wsx2 pistols knife
Sanc
Tombs
Subterra
Mastermind (unplayable due to missing textures and sound file)
Blackmarket
Rumble
Live fire (unplayable due to missing textures)
heckenschuetze - the map Superfly was describing (Missing Textures) love this map too

Re: Map rotation?
momo, Fri Mar 06 2009, 04:05PM

Sanctuary is always good. I forgot all about that one.

Re: Map rotation?
GreenEyes, Fri Mar 06 2009, 10:17PM

I Request NOOOOO BOMB it blows my ASS up every damn time... hehe

Re: Map rotation?
DankRider, Tue Mar 10 2009, 01:14AM

Here is the current March 09' Cycle frog and I created. We tend to find required changes as the cycle is played, if even just to provide a minor cycle change. We took a couple risk's with this map cycle so if you have a opinion and or requested change feel free to post. If a map swap is required provide the specific details.

//March 09' Map Cycle created by Frog And Dank

ut4_turnpike
ut4_sanc --(replaced-laneway Killed the server in slot #2)
ut4_terrorism3
kellblack (Waverespawns 20) - (would like to make playable even at risk of elimination snipers.)
ut4_herring
ut4_tunis
ut_berch
ut4_nuclear (Bomb) - (was Uptown replaced with nuclear due to popular demand)
ut4_riyadh
ut4_cemeterry666
ut4_kingdom
ut4_wsx2 (g_gear 55 = Pistols)-
ut4_asylum
ut4_sliema
ut4_blackmarket_beta
ut4_druglord2
ut4_crystalpower (g_gear 49 = Pistols,Snipers,Spas)
ut4_casa
ut4_kingpin
ut_canyon2
ut4_rumble
ut4_druglord

Rotation Specs:
- 22 maps
- 6 requested maps out of about a dozen "some requested unplayable"
- 6 New maps to FSK's Rotation "testing" (ut4_wsx2, ut4_blackmarket_beta, ut4_kellblack, ut4_crystalpower, ut4_herring, ut4_cemeterry666)
- kellblack - currently running a wave respawn in hope of making it playable. Looking for proactive ideas to make this map fun and playable. - dont bother to post if you simply dont like the map.
- Though some maps may not be best suited for the rotation, we try to find ways to play specific maps when we DJ the cycle.
- 2 old school ut maps.

Note for FSK's map cycle creation.
we try to push the envelope playing 3rd party maps while incorporating requested maps, additional game modes, limited weapon load outs, and standard maps.

Appreciate, your suggestions and input, if we dont add your maps this cycle we will try to add them to the next.

Re: Map rotation?
momo, Tue Mar 10 2009, 10:21AM

Thanks Dankster. I appreciate what you guys do.

Re: Map rotation?
LadyHellfire*, Tue Mar 10 2009, 12:02PM

Good call on Laneway...

Herring seems to cycle out for some reason, but not consistently. Had several reconnects required both times the map has run when I was on recently.

Kellblack... several complaints during play yesterday. However, I did not cycle or even ask for a vote to cycle. It is a cool map, but unfortunately I have yet to see it actually be playable as CTF. As a C&H or FTL.. well... Even with a wave respawn, once someone actually gets to the other flag, getting back out is near impossible when decently skilled players are present.

Turnpike.. lol... I bitch about that one enough already. But, I will say it again- wickedly unbalanced. Red is as close to "cattle out in the open upon spawn" as can be. Sniper lane from blue flag, as well as that damn window. Players complained yesterday that were Red, as usual when more than 5 or 6 per side. I would sub Ambush or Prague.. but I know I am likely in the minority of those wanting to never see Turnpike again for CTF.

Cemetery666.. interestingly, fun map! Total clusterfaq, total chaos, but under that lies room for actual tactical bits.

Wsx2 is my new fav. Force it and Kellblack to mate and the offspring would be... :D

Otherwise it seems solid. Nuclear in Bomb mode drops some players, but during play, new ones come in. Bomb seems to always do that tho. The only thing I would like to see changed would be to swap Rumble and Turnpike. IMO, Rumble would be better in slot 1. Or, make Rumble slot 2, and then Casa, Sanc, Ambush, Prague or such in slot 1.

Just my POV... Lots of great, great maps.. and classic maps.. that are unplayable, broken, etc. With what is left, you guys come up with great cycles. Wish Spider's old map (pistols only) was working, and the old CAHOS map (Wily I think?), Filtration, Horror, Zero, Afterhours, and PGrounds (stupid spawns!).