Being an Admin

Whitedog, Thu Feb 26 2009, 02:19AM

Playing a game should be fun. Trash talking can be amusing. Insulting others is not. When a game is being played and the score is 1O to 0, I take the option of making teams not only even but competitive. If this is a problem take it up with my bosses and they will inform me as to how to handle this situation.

We are here to be amused and have fun. If you cannot handle this then you need to find a different server. We talk as adults not as children. If you wish to complain you shall be removed as you should not be here to begin with.

Last, to all underage players, find a server that fits your age group! I do not approve of minors hiding behind their age when people swear! In other words FUCK OFF and go play with your dolls and GI Joes!

This is an adult server, we say things as adults. If ever a teenager brings up that they are minors and are insulted by what is said I will TEMP BAN YOUR ASS! Each and every time I see you online.

You are playing on an adult server not by right but by tolerance of other adults. If you want to be Politically Correct move to California!

Swearing is one thing, swearing at other is something else. If your pretty little ears cannot handle it, LEAVE!

I thank you for your time, please feel free to contact me if you should have any addition questions.

Sincerely,

Whitedog

aka Reaper, Joker
Re: Being an Admin
Tranc3r, Thu Feb 26 2009, 02:38AM

This should be a sticky.
Re: Being an Admin
Gladi8r, Thu Feb 26 2009, 03:30AM

F1... Fuckin A... Right On... What he said... Ditto... Indubitably... indeed... no doubt... hear here...
Re: Being an Admin
LadyHellfire*, Thu Feb 26 2009, 12:20PM

Is this in reference to the FSK Superman server? Or the FSK Pub server? Or another?

If one of the first two, then it is an all-ages situation. This does not mean (necessarily) that it is Chucky Cheese; simply that acknowledgment of the fact that some players may be under the age of 18 should be exercised. Sorta like being in the grocery store versus being in a sports bar at midnight. As far as language, even in an adults only situation, some will inevitably be offended by words and phrases that others are not. A constant run of words and phrases that most would accept as "adult" (such as, "Stupid fuckin shitbag fuckers!") is easy enough to control. If not, I would love to hang out when someone who speaks like that 24/7 goes out in public; I love entertainment :D Sure, the "profane" will slip out, and anyone under 18 should have parental presence; it is up to the parent/guardian that is responsible for the child to gauge the appropriateness (or not) of an activity. Even with a clan (FSK405) that is all adults, our "In-Clan Sunday Scrim" will have an under 18 or two at times (invited), but when they do not include the under 18, none of us has yet shown a need to use the situation as a time to, "Finally be able to fuckin shit talk as fuckin much as I fiuckin want cause none of those little shitbag fuckers are around." For any FSK run/owned server, we ask that one exercise some care, thought and respect.

That said.. it can end up like a sports bar around midnight at times, with conversational content being... adult ;) Or, when one gets there taint sliced in combat, talk of episiotomies may occur :D

As for team balancing... on the FSK Superman server.. well... I leave that to the teachers and staff. I have no idea what the Superman map even looks like these days. On FSK Pub however, balancing teams is a bit more difficult. During a single map, as players enter and leave- sometimes due to imbalance- the balance between the teams will shift. If Red is slammin Blue, and the next map is Turnpike (for instance), with map change/player changes, and the imbalance of the map, the teams may just be perfect as is. Or not. Shuffling teams on the pub server is not a "quick fix resolution" most of the time. Yes, a map may run 7 caps in 3 minutes. Shuffling immediately following may seem the best solution, but many times it is not, and can even lead to people leaving.

WD, I hear what you are saying. Having the other team cap when someone does an Epic Fail that helps that can lead to a "Dammit! Fuckin A!" or whatever. As I said- parental supervision and awareness. As adult players, it is not our job to check ID at the door and play with kidd gloves every second. Common courtesy though is expected on any and all FSK servers, period.

To any under age kids: Be aware that you are playing with adults. With the blood and such in the game, I would consider it a PG13 game. Others will consider it offensive at the core, and others see a different "For ages.." Please do not use age as a reason for anything, be it an excuse for your behavior, or as a reason for someone else to change theirs. Age does not prevent one from ignoring, or disconnecting. Nor does it stop one from being an idiot.
Re: Being an Admin
Gladi8r, Thu Feb 26 2009, 12:54PM

Bver, he's talkin about Dank's Superman server, which is sometimes rife with idiots, especially during the USA early morning/daytime, which is the European afternoon/evening, and the place is crawling with little miscreants looking for a thrill via general asshattery. Gets frustrating.

The regular FSK servers have never had more than the occasional idiot pop up that I've seen, and those servers are 'clan only' admins AFAIK.

F1, gg
Re: Being an Admin
LadyHellfire*, Thu Feb 26 2009, 01:33PM

Ahhh.... no sprechen zie ubermensch :D
Re: Being an Admin
ZELLIS, Thu Feb 26 2009, 01:44PM

B-ver is right, regardless if it is danks server, it is still an FSK405 server and i believe he wants the server run with the same level of integrity as the PUB server. respect all players regardless of age. IF we have asshattery, that's one thing, if we have people complaining because of too much foul language, that's another, regardless of age! It is the Admins responsibility to be the "Adult" and take charge of any situation that may require intervention. The server is NOT an adult server! it is a server provided to the Community for All to use that respect it. as b-ver said, FSK is an Adult clan, that does not mean that only adults play on it. As an Admin/ adult, it is our responsibility to keep the server clean "within reason, same points b-ver gave". If there is an asshat, well, you do what you need to do to keep the server going and enjoyable.
As for team stacking, dank may have a differing opinion, but as long as teams are EVEN (meaning an even number of bodies on each team, then you are good to go. so what if the score is 10 to 0, some people win, some people loose. now if you play a few maps that are blowouts, then maybe a shuffle is in order. but keep in mind, the good "adult players" will see this and try to join the loosing team for a challenge! at least I do.
Re: Being an Admin
|$|Mindfreak, Thu Feb 26 2009, 01:57PM

Ahhh.... no sprechen zie ubermensch


what should that mean B-Ver :-D
Re: Being an Admin
LadyHellfire*, Thu Feb 26 2009, 02:53PM


Ahhh.... no sprechen zie ubermensch


what should that mean B-Ver :-D

|$|Mindfreak
Just a little "lol." Bad German (very bad-lol) meaning "I do not speak Superman." A nudge of Nietzsche, which (for, erm, many?) can lead to justified, erm, asshattery. Multiple play on words/x-referencing across languages. Should have been (still badly), "Ich tue nicht sprechen Ubermensch."

Ich tue nicht scheißen eigentlich... (Latin is even more fun... :D )
Re: Being an Admin
|$|Mindfreak, Thu Feb 26 2009, 03:01PM

I am coming from germany.. so if you want to say in german: " I do not speak Superman" you would say "Ich spreche kein superman" but i was confused because superman is not a language :D

I learned Latin 5 years :-P

but

Ich tue nicht scheißen eigentlich --> correct version is " eigentlich scheiße ich nicht" <-- but if this would be correct ... you had something like astingency (hope it's the right word) :-D

that's the difference between english and german we do not use the "do" to make clear that we do something.. we use the verbform :-D

funny thing x)
Re: Being an Admin
LadyHellfire*, Thu Feb 26 2009, 05:02PM

I have always disliked the "waste" in the English language. Almost every *good* language allows for "givens" (such as "am" in something like "I am hungry".. "Me hungry," or even "Hungry" with proper context or variation on the word would be far more efficient.. IMO ;) ). Ironically, I find that all language is woefully lacking in full expression... the Ents of Tolkein lore being of those not lacking ;)

Chinese and ancient Egyptian are interesting... Japanese is fun for me due to the lack of "waste," but with the way languages are being altered to allow for the common dunce today, I could see it getting packed off for the toilet just as much...

Re: Being an Admin
[$E]Heroine., Thu Feb 26 2009, 05:57PM

I think he is referring to when I asked him to not curse another player out, when I didn't know he was an admin. Then he told me to blow him. So I muted him, and aliased him, and found out he was whitedog.
I was completely within my rights to enforce rule3 (No offensive language, asshatrey) Esp. if he's supposed to be an adult and an admin.
Then he tells me to blow him.. how is that professional.
and why should that be tolerated..
Any way I try to defend myself, he's going to come back pointing his finger at me like I started it, when all I did, was do my job. And I'm sure he'll have Gladi8r, and Boogie behind him. I did nothing wrong when I muted him, and asked him to be nice. If you're an admin, you shouldn't be talking shit to others. Nor should you come on here, and say you're allowed to say shit, when there's a rule on the server against it. Fokker tells me to stand up for myself in situations like this, and I am. So please don't come back cursing me out like I'm a annoying little girl, when you know I'm right. I'm trying to be mature, and say this without being rude, so can you.
~Heroine.
Re: Being an Admin
[$E]Heroine., Thu Feb 26 2009, 06:40PM

It wouldn't let me upload it by the choosing file, so I had to use the tinypic thing.

http://i44.tinypic.com/21kcwsi.jpg

Now. I had already muted emerson:) for spamming. Or Ban did. and whitedog still cursed at him, and he did it to someone else too, before that. So the second time, I told him to stop, because that's rule3.
I already told you what happened. This is just my proof. And Ban_Me has more too.
Re: Being an Admin
Whitedog, Thu Feb 26 2009, 06:58PM

Heroine, don't get your teenage panties all bound up! You forgot one important point. When I said "blow me" you did mention the fact that you were are a teenager. Since you wish to hide behind your innocence as an underage little shit, I feel that you need to sit at the kiddy table and not with adults since you cannot handle the shit!

The internet at one time was used by people in higher institutions of learning and the military. Now every fucken parent bitches about their child being exposed to shit on the net. Well that's easy, go play at the kiddy table! You do not belong here, especially since you wish to hide behind your young innocent panties! Piss off and go play with people your own age! Other people who are younger than you are more mature than you playing this game. Like Tranc3r. I have grown to respect that little shit! He can handle what happens on Superman server and other FSK servers.

So in essence grow the fuck up or get the fuck out. But never threaten any body about you being an under age pain in the ass!

Thank you for your time and remember you shall be carded at the door! Enjoy! Have a nice day! :)

Whitedog, aka Reaper, Joker
Re: Being an Admin
ZELLIS, Thu Feb 26 2009, 07:00PM

Whitedog...chill your ass out. we are not kicking people for there age! Heroine, cussing will happen! ths occasional "blow me will happen" brush is off and continue to play. If every other word is B*tch B*tch Hoe, or F*CK!!! whatever over and over again, then you are within your rights to enforce rule3 and even mute IF it contiunes, even if he is whitedog.

KEEP IT CLEAN
Re: Being an Admin
theSheilaDivine, Thu Feb 26 2009, 07:40PM

Rule 3 is clear. Players are allowed:

7 "son of a bitch"s
1 "Fuck"
327 "hell"s
4 "Jesus Christ"s
2 "Goddammit"s
3,652,000 "heck"s
29 "shit"s
3 "asshole"s
27 "schmuck"s

Now get out there and enforce it, people.
Re: Being an Admin
[$E]Heroine., Thu Feb 26 2009, 07:52PM


Whitedog...chill your ass out. we are not kicking people for there age! Heroine, cussing will happen! ths occasional "blow me will happen" brush is off and continue to play. If every other word is B*tch B*tch Hoe, or F*CK!!! whatever over and over again, then you are within your rights to enforce rule3 and even mute IF it contiunes, even if he is whitedog.

KEEP IT CLEAN

ZELLIS

I understand that. I do, but he was being rude to a lot of people. So I enforced the rule. I told you he'd come back with some smartass reply because I defended myself. I realize that these are adult servers, but you don't have to intentionally be an asshole, right?

ANYWAYS.
It's over. it happened. I have nothing against whitedog. He is an admin, and I have to respect him. Just don't talk shit about me like I'm a little twit, please.

Thank-you.
(I agree with you, Zellis. just FYI.)
Re: Being an Admin
BanMe, Thu Feb 26 2009, 07:52PM

Whitedog I find it odd that eventhough you know Heroine is under age you still told her to Blow You. Why would you tell a child to do that. Didn't your mother ever teach you how to respect women.
Re: Being an Admin
Whitedog, Thu Feb 26 2009, 08:52PM

To Heroine, Ban_me and Zellis

Heroine you want to hide behind your age? Fine you shall be treated that way. You little arrogant shit!

Ban_me, maybe I forgot her age, I expect people to act if nothing else like adults and assume people are adults! Now for the fact that she is a minor and the assumption you make. Fuck off, you can go sniff her panties like you have online while playing Superman even though you have mention that you are 10 years older than her. You want to flirt with some one underage that's your fucken business.

Some one that makes an off handed comment why would I say that to a teenager is blatantly taking shit out of context and I will not tolerate that! Yeah you Heroine! Not only are you a twit but a pain in the ass as well. Oh by the way your language on Superman is not so innocent.

Zellis, you can join Ban_me in the panty sniffing line. You don't like my call complain to management. That is who I account too!

As far as I am concern you three are a royal pain in the ass.

Thank you for your time, please feel free to leave a comment. If you should have any questions please feel free to bring it to managements attention. Have a nice day and please kiss my ass!
Thank you.

Sincerely,

Whitedog aka Reaper, Joker
Re: Being an Admin
BanMe, Thu Feb 26 2009, 08:58PM

Im 16 in A couple days you arrogant little fuck. Im not sniffing her painties we are friends and dont talk to her like that it just makes you look like even more of a douche than I already thought you were. Heroine isnt hiding behind her age she just doent want your childish bullshit. If you want to talk shit about me go right a head I'll pwn your ass every time I see you.

Closing message to you Whitedog.
GO FUCK YOUR SELF
Re: Being an Admin
[$E]Heroine., Thu Feb 26 2009, 09:16PM

I know I may not be innocent in the language department, but I don't go off on someone when they're spamming when I can mute them. Now I asked you to be mature in your response, and you weren't. Aside from the manners, you're are starting drama that doesn't need to be here. I simply replied to defend myself, Zellis replied to make a statement which was true, and Ban_Me is within his rights to ask you to get off your high horse. I acknowledge that I do curse when I shouldn't. And believe me, I will try my damned hardest to stop. I am an admin on Superman, to make sure teams are even, and warn people that need be warned. Mute people who need a mute. So don't ask for me to be taken off admin powers because you made an immature remark to me out of anger. If Dank chooses to take my admin powers, so be it. I am just there to play, and help when I can, I don't need some old guy telling me to blow him because he knows he's wrong for cursing someone out, when the problem is easily solved by one simple command. I apologize for offending you in any way, and my intentions were never to cause any drama, but you telling Members of the forum to ''sniff my panties'' because they replied to a thread YOU made is a but ironic, considering it was made to be replied to. I don't care if you forgot my age. And I'm not ''hiding'' behind it. I was simply stating a fact. If you said ''Blow Me'' to B-Ver, or Green Eyes, or Chic, seriously like you did to me, I don't think they'd appreciate it, either. So please don't come back and start shit because you can't admit to being in the wrong. It's OVER. Relax. Grow up.
~Heroine.
Re: Being an Admin
ZELLIS, Thu Feb 26 2009, 09:30PM

Your age and maturity are showing white-dog along with you inability to effectively admin the server. your lack of respect and god complex shines like the red balls off a monkeys ass.
Re: Being an Admin
Whitedog, Thu Feb 26 2009, 10:01PM

To the three stooges, Zellis, Heroine and Ban_me:

I thank you for your reply. Zellis very funny reply. Ban_me no worries I think you need some zit cream. Your hormones are getting the better of you. Heroine, well blow me can mean the physical act or maybe another way of saying kiss my ass. Ok, so now we know words can have many different interpretations. ROFL! Next time don't hide behind being a teenager when a comment is made. You wanna be an adult then fucken act like one!

The drama is over and all points have been accounted for. ROFL!
Again thank you for your amusing responses. Now please be so kind as to sit with the other children at the kiddie table!

LOL,

Whitedog

ROFL!
Re: Being an Admin
ZELLIS, Thu Feb 26 2009, 10:08PM

oh... its not over whitedog... it has just started.. !lol
Re: Being an Admin
[$E]Heroine., Thu Feb 26 2009, 10:21PM


oh... its not over whitedog... it has just started.. !lol

ZELLIS

Do you prefer the Three Musketeers as well? =]
Re: Being an Admin
BanMe, Thu Feb 26 2009, 10:23PM

I do. Their candy bar is fantastic !lol
Re: Being an Admin
Gladi8r, Thu Feb 26 2009, 11:51PM

Whitedog,

I originally agreed with you, since I thought you were speaking of the teenage miscreants who come to stir shit on the server. Now that I know you were taliing about a regular (Heroine) player's actons (and a very good player at that- yes, a little immature and narcissistic, but who isn't at 16?) and seeing your completely inappropriate responses to her, BanMe, and Zellis, I have to say, as a fellow 'old guy' like you- get a grip. You can't expect people to act civil if you yourself cannot do so as well. And talking that way to a teenager is beyond comprehension. If you don't like their verbal BS in game, mute 'em. Problem solved.

I won't stoop to the name-calling level here, Whitedog, but suffice it to say I just lost any respect I had for you.
Re: Being an Admin
deleted-user, Fri Feb 27 2009, 12:10AM

I agree with you, glad. As a 25 yo bald guy I feel pretty confident in being able to speak as a middle ground between the youngers and the olders. It's just a game. There's no reason to take anything any of us says insanely seriously. I come on here for one exact, important thing: to relax.
Re: Being an Admin
[$E]Heroine., Fri Feb 27 2009, 12:26AM

What can I say, Gladi, and Tink.
Immaturity is inevitable for anyone 20 and under =]
I do try not to though.. so.. hi-five and hugs all around.
Re: Being an Admin
SPIDER, Fri Feb 27 2009, 12:32AM

White Dog need to chill the fuck out you think because your a admin you can tell people if they don't like our server they can leave you pay for the motherfucker or become a member of FSK405 then you can make the fucking rules. I am one of the most fowl motherfuckers in URT and even I have some respect for when teenagers are around now that being said I don't watch my mouth for no one regardless of age but you need to slow your role before the big dogs put you in your fucking place.
Re: Being an Admin
FSK405 Earl, Fri Feb 27 2009, 12:42AM

Okay, here is my two cents..... or more (B-Ver may appreciate this).

If you want to join any fucking server in Urban Fucking Terror, you should realize that you may run into mother fuckers that may talk in a way that you are not comfortable with. If they talk that fucking way then maybe you should /disconnect.

If you are an admin that can't handle simple talking shit. Kind of like Ghandi does on a regular basis, then maybe you should /disconnect.

Zellis, I have to disagree with you. I understand that "yes" we need to have a "friendly" server and have some respect towards decency. However, I personally do not feel that we have to take a moral stand on FPS gaming. I don't think that we have to have a "PG-13" or less rated server. If someone is dropping "Fuck bombs" in an amusing matter, that is all good.

I think that profanity is ABSOLUTELY acceptable in the right form.

Maybe you disagree, maybe MANY of our current Superman "admins"/refs disagree.

I have been "baby sitting" a lot on the Superman server lately. Personally, I am a pretty leaneant admin. I let shit go if it isn't disrupting the game, even if someone is a chatty Kathy.

What I see happening and what I take more seriously than a thread like this started by an "admin", are the threads that complain about admins. Because, a good admin doesn't get complaints, and a good admin does there job right.

I think the problem is people getting power and thinking that they need to abide by rules to a fucking "T".

I think that some, sit is spec WAY TO FUCKING LONG.

I think that some shouldn't have ref priviledges that do. I'm not pointing anyone specific out. However, I do respect what I think Whitedog's intention is in starting this thread.

Although, I agree, I think Whitedog may be a little too Maverick in his intention.
Re: Being an Admin
SPIDER, Fri Feb 27 2009, 01:06AM

I Luv you Earl. Fokkers I Luv you more my canadian luv monkey.
Re: Being an Admin
Fokker, Fri Feb 27 2009, 01:07AM

If any admin feels the need to warn and subsequently mute/ kick/ban a player that is his/her role and responsibility. Other admins should be supportive and respectful of those decisions.

That being said Whitedog, please understand that by using an alias you were inviting a misunderstanding. Your response to another admins decision was an inappropriate comment. This is not acceptable.

As far as I am concerned Heroine has acted as a responsible admin. I am left wondering who the adult is..... ?
Re: Being an Admin
SPIDER, Fri Feb 27 2009, 01:17AM



White Dog need to chill the fuck out you think because your a admin you can tell people if they don't like our server they can leave you pay for the motherfucker or become a member of FSK405 then you can make the fucking rules. I am one of the most fowl motherfuckers in URT and even I have some respect for when teenagers are around now that being said I don't watch my mouth for no one regardless of age but you need to slow your role before the big dogs put you in your fucking place.

SPIDER
Just incase you missed it the first time......!!!!!!!!!!!

SPIDER
Re: Being an Admin
Fear, Fri Feb 27 2009, 01:18AM

word!